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2nd Workshop on supporting Polarised SANS data

2025-04-02T11:18:58Z

Ajj: /* Implementation Example */

2nd Workshop on Supporting Polarised SANS Data

Thanks to the hard work of Steve King (ISIS), Dirk Honecker (ISIS), Lucas Wilkins (ISIS), and Annika Stellhorn (ESS) there is a proposed extension to the NXcanSAS v1.0 to support the various forms of polarized/magnetic SANS measurements that are performed.

They have written up the proposal on the canSAS wiki here : [[NXcanSAS_v1.1]]

They have worked to ensure compliance with the core definition of NXcanSAS with only additions to the standard needed and no other modifications.

To fully implement their vision, some underlying changes to NeXus would be needed, which they have discussed with Freddie Akeroyd as to the reasonableness of their proposal. Pete Jemian has offered to take these proposals to the NIAC.

In order for us to finalise the data format, we will hold a workshop/hackathon at ESS and are proposing April 2nd this year.

The goals of the workshop are to :
# Finalise the format (including deciding on which of the recommended proposals on the wiki we accept)
# Produce real-code example of implementation
# Outline the work needed to read the format into relevant codes (primarily SasView)
# Initiate the write up of proposal to NIAC for adoption as an update to the NXcansas definition.

== Agenda ==
In order to try to accommodate our US colleagues, we will arrange the day as follows (all times CEST, BST is -1 hour, EDT is -6 hours from CEST).

* 09:00 ESS tour (Annika, Dirk, Andrew)
* 11:00 On-site discussions and preparation (Annika, Dirk, Andrew)
* 12:00 Lunch
* 13:00 Overview of proposal
* 13:30 Summary of opinions/comments
* 14:00 Discussion of recommended items
* 14:30 Discussion and work on goals 2-4 (breakout as needed)
* 17:30 Close-out, next actions and work assignments.

== Participants ==
* Annika Stellhorn (ESS)
* Dirk Honecker (ISIS)
* Lisa Debeer-Schmitt (ORNL)
* Jonathan Gaudet (NIST)
* Jeff Krzywon (NIST)
* Lucas Wilkins (ISIS)
* Mial Lewis (ISIS)
* Adrian Diaz Alvarez (ISIS)
* Oliver Hammond (ESS)
* Andrew Jackson (ESS)

== Meeting Notes ==

=== Overview of Proposal ===

Presentation from Annika & Dirk :

=== Summary of Opinions and Comments ===

=== Discussion of Recommended Items ===

=== Discussion and Work on Goals 2-4 ===

==== Implementation Example ====
ISIS Mantid team have prepared an example of a possible implementation (remove.txt extension to use)

Current mantid output : [[File:half pol data2d group.nxs.txt|thumb]]

Proposed NXcanSAS output : [[File:half pol data2D larmor nxcansas.h5.txt|thumb]]

==== Work needed to implement reading ====
Jeff Krzywon / SasView

==== NIAC proposal ====
Figure out process ... what do we need to do (probably PR on relevant github repo?)

=== Closeout and Assignments ===

2nd Workshop on supporting Polarised SANS data

2025-04-02T11:02:42Z

Ajj:

2nd Workshop on Supporting Polarised SANS Data

Thanks to the hard work of Steve King (ISIS), Dirk Honecker (ISIS), Lucas Wilkins (ISIS), and Annika Stellhorn (ESS) there is a proposed extension to the NXcanSAS v1.0 to support the various forms of polarized/magnetic SANS measurements that are performed.

They have written up the proposal on the canSAS wiki here : [[NXcanSAS_v1.1]]

They have worked to ensure compliance with the core definition of NXcanSAS with only additions to the standard needed and no other modifications.

To fully implement their vision, some underlying changes to NeXus would be needed, which they have discussed with Freddie Akeroyd as to the reasonableness of their proposal. Pete Jemian has offered to take these proposals to the NIAC.

In order for us to finalise the data format, we will hold a workshop/hackathon at ESS and are proposing April 2nd this year.

The goals of the workshop are to :
# Finalise the format (including deciding on which of the recommended proposals on the wiki we accept)
# Produce real-code example of implementation
# Outline the work needed to read the format into relevant codes (primarily SasView)
# Initiate the write up of proposal to NIAC for adoption as an update to the NXcansas definition.

== Agenda ==
In order to try to accommodate our US colleagues, we will arrange the day as follows (all times CEST, BST is -1 hour, EDT is -6 hours from CEST).

* 09:00 ESS tour (Annika, Dirk, Andrew)
* 11:00 On-site discussions and preparation (Annika, Dirk, Andrew)
* 12:00 Lunch
* 13:00 Overview of proposal
* 13:30 Summary of opinions/comments
* 14:00 Discussion of recommended items
* 14:30 Discussion and work on goals 2-4 (breakout as needed)
* 17:30 Close-out, next actions and work assignments.

== Participants ==
* Annika Stellhorn (ESS)
* Dirk Honecker (ISIS)
* Lisa Debeer-Schmitt (ORNL)
* Jonathan Gaudet (NIST)
* Jeff Kryzwon (NIST)
* Lucas Wilkins (ISIS)
* Mial Lewis (ISIS)
* Adrian Diaz Alvarez (ISIS)
* Oliver Hammond (ESS)
* Andrew Jackson (ESS)

== Meeting Notes ==

=== Overview of Proposal ===

Presentation from Annika & Dirk :

=== Summary of Opinions and Comments ===

=== Discussion of Recommended Items ===

=== Discussion and Work on Goals 2-4 ===

==== Implementation Example ====
ISIS Mantid team have prepared an example of a possible implementation (remove.txt extension to use)

[[File:half pol data2d group.nxs.txt|thumb]]

[[File:half pol data2D larmor nxcansas.h5.txt|thumb]]

==== Work needed to implement reading ====
Jeff Kryzwon / SasView

==== NIAC proposal ====
Figure out process ... what do we need to do (probably PR on relevant github repo?)

=== Closeout and Assignments ===

2nd Workshop on supporting Polarised SANS data

2025-04-02T11:02:22Z

Ajj:

2nd Workshop on Supporting Polarised SANS Data

Thanks to the hard work of Steve King (ISIS), Dirk Honecker (ISIS), Lucas Wilkins (ISIS), and Annika Stellhorn (ESS) there is a proposed extension to the NXcanSAS v1.0 to support the various forms of polarized/magnetic SANS measurements that are performed.

They have written up the proposal on the canSAS wiki here : [[NXcanSAS_v1.1]]

They have worked to ensure compliance with the core definition of NXcanSAS with only additions to the standard needed and no other modifications.

To fully implement their vision, some underlying changes to NeXus would be needed, which they have discussed with Freddie Akeroyd as to the reasonableness of their proposal. Pete Jemian has offered to take these proposals to the NIAC.

In order for us to finalise the data format, we will hold a workshop/hackathon at ESS and are proposing April 2nd this year.

The goals of the workshop are to :
# Finalise the format (including deciding on which of the recommended proposals on the wiki we accept)
# Produce real-code example of implementation
# Outline the work needed to read the format into relevant codes (primarily SasView)
# Initiate the write up of proposal to NIAC for adoption as an update to the NXcansas definition.

== Agenda ==
In order to try to accommodate our US colleagues, we will arrange the day as follows (all times CEST, BST is -1 hour, EDT is -6 hours from CEST).

* 09:00 ESS tour (Annika, Dirk, Andrew)
* 11:00 On-site discussions and preparation (Annika, Dirk, Andrew)
* 12:00 Lunch
* 13:00 Overview of proposal
* 13:30 Summary of opinions/comments
* 14:00 Discussion of recommended items
* 14:30 Discussion and work on goals 2-4 (breakout as needed)
* 17:30 Close-out, next actions and work assignments.

== Participants ==
Annika Stellhorn (ESS)
Dirk Honecker (ISIS)
Lisa Debeer-Schmitt (ORNL)
Jonathan Gaudet (NIST)
Jeff Kryzwon (NIST)
Lucas Wilkins (ISIS)
Mial Lewis (ISIS)
Adrian Diaz Alvarez (ISIS)
Oliver Hammond (ESS)
Andrew Jackson (ESS)

== Meeting Notes ==

=== Overview of Proposal ===

Presentation from Annika & Dirk :

=== Summary of Opinions and Comments ===

=== Discussion of Recommended Items ===

=== Discussion and Work on Goals 2-4 ===

==== Implementation Example ====
ISIS Mantid team have prepared an example of a possible implementation (remove.txt extension to use)

[[File:half pol data2d group.nxs.txt|thumb]]

[[File:half pol data2D larmor nxcansas.h5.txt|thumb]]

==== Work needed to implement reading ====
Jeff Kryzwon / SasView

==== NIAC proposal ====
Figure out process ... what do we need to do (probably PR on relevant github repo?)

=== Closeout and Assignments ===

2nd Workshop on supporting Polarised SANS data

2025-04-02T11:01:52Z

Ajj:

2nd Workshop on Supporting Polarised SANS Data

Thanks to the hard work of Steve King (ISIS), Dirk Honecker (ISIS), Lucas Wilkins (ISIS), and Annika Stellhorn (ESS) there is a proposed extension to the NXcanSAS v1.0 to support the various forms of polarized/magnetic SANS measurements that are performed.

They have written up the proposal on the canSAS wiki here : [[NXcanSAS_v1.1]]

They have worked to ensure compliance with the core definition of NXcanSAS with only additions to the standard needed and no other modifications.

To fully implement their vision, some underlying changes to NeXus would be needed, which they have discussed with Freddie Akeroyd as to the reasonableness of their proposal. Pete Jemian has offered to take these proposals to the NIAC.

In order for us to finalise the data format, we will hold a workshop/hackathon at ESS and are proposing April 2nd this year.

The goals of the workshop are to :
# Finalise the format (including deciding on which of the recommended proposals on the wiki we accept)
# Produce real-code example of implementation
# Outline the work needed to read the format into relevant codes (primarily SasView)
# Initiate the write up of proposal to NIAC for adoption as an update to the NXcansas definition.

== Agenda ==
In order to try to accommodate our US colleagues, we will arrange the day as follows (all times CEST, BST is -1 hour, EDT is -6 hours from CEST).

09:00 ESS tour (Annika, Dirk, Andrew)
11:00 On-site discussions and preparation (Annika, Dirk, Andrew)
12:00 Lunch
13:00 Overview of proposal
13:30 Summary of opinions/comments
14:00 Discussion of recommended items
14:30 Discussion and work on goals 2-4 (breakout as needed)
17:30 Close-out, next actions and work assignments.

== Participants ==
Annika Stellhorn (ESS)
Dirk Honecker (ISIS)
Lisa Debeer-Schmitt (ORNL)
Jonathan Gaudet (NIST)
Jeff Kryzwon (NIST)
Lucas Wilkins (ISIS)
Mial Lewis (ISIS)
Adrian Diaz Alvarez (ISIS)
Oliver Hammond (ESS)
Andrew Jackson (ESS)

== Meeting Notes ==

=== Overview of Proposal ===

Presentation from Annika & Dirk :

=== Summary of Opinions and Comments ===

=== Discussion of Recommended Items ===

=== Discussion and Work on Goals 2-4 ===

==== Implementation Example ====
ISIS Mantid team have prepared an example of a possible implementation (remove.txt extension to use)

[[File:half pol data2d group.nxs.txt|thumb]]

[[File:half pol data2D larmor nxcansas.h5.txt|thumb]]

==== Work needed to implement reading ====
Jeff Kryzwon / SasView

==== NIAC proposal ====
Figure out process ... what do we need to do (probably PR on relevant github repo?)

=== Closeout and Assignments ===

2nd Workshop on supporting Polarised SANS data

2025-04-02T11:01:28Z

Ajj: /* Implementation Example */

2nd Workshop on Supporting Polarised SANS Data

Thanks to the hard work of Steve King (ISIS), Dirk Honecker (ISIS), Lucas Wilkins (ISIS), and Annika Stellhorn (ESS) there is a proposed extension to the NXcanSAS v1.0 to support the various forms of polarized/magnetic SANS measurements that are performed.

They have written up the proposal on the canSAS wiki here : [[NXcanSAS_v1.1]]

They have worked to ensure compliance with the core definition of NXcanSAS with only additions to the standard needed and no other modifications.

To fully implement their vision, some underlying changes to NeXus would be needed, which they have discussed with Freddie Akeroyd as to the reasonableness of their proposal. Pete Jemian has offered to take these proposals to the NIAC.

In order for us to finalise the data format, we will hold a workshop/hackathon at ESS and are proposing April 2nd this year.

The goals of the workshop are to :
# Finalise the format (including deciding on which of the recommended proposals on the wiki we accept)
# Produce real-code example of implementation
# Outline the work needed to read the format into relevant codes (primarily SasView)
# Initiate the write up of proposal to NIAC for adoption as an update to the NXcansas definition.

== Agenda ==
In order to try to accommodate our US colleagues, we will arrange the day as follows (all times CEST, BST is -1 hour, EDT is -6 hours from CEST).

09:00 ESS tour (Annika, Dirk, Andrew)
11:00 On-site discussions and preparation (Annika, Dirk, Andrew)
12:00 Lunch
13:00 Overview of proposal
13:30 Summary of opinions/comments
14:00 Discussion of recommended items
14:30 Discussion and work on goals 2-4 (breakout as needed)
17:30 Close-out, next actions and work assignments.

== Participants ==
Annika Stellhorn (ESS)
Dirk Honecker (ISIS)
Lisa Debeer-Schmitt (ORNL)
Jonathan Gaudet (NIST)
Jeff Kryzwon (NIST)
Lucas Wilkins (ISIS)
Mial Lewis (ISIS)
Adrian Diaz Alvarez (ISIS)
Andrew Jackson (ESS)

== Meeting Notes ==

=== Overview of Proposal ===

Presentation from Annika & Dirk :

=== Summary of Opinions and Comments ===

=== Discussion of Recommended Items ===

=== Discussion and Work on Goals 2-4 ===

==== Implementation Example ====
ISIS Mantid team have prepared an example of a possible implementation (remove.txt extension to use)

[[File:half pol data2d group.nxs.txt|thumb]]

[[File:half pol data2D larmor nxcansas.h5.txt|thumb]]

==== Work needed to implement reading ====
Jeff Kryzwon / SasView

==== NIAC proposal ====
Figure out process ... what do we need to do (probably PR on relevant github repo?)

=== Closeout and Assignments ===

File:half pol data2D larmor nxcansas.h5.txt

2025-04-02T11:01:20Z

Ajj:

Proposed ISIS implementation of the NXcanSAS v1.1

File:half pol data2d group.nxs.txt

2025-04-02T10:59:59Z

Ajj:

Example current data file

2nd Workshop on supporting Polarised SANS data

2025-04-02T09:35:09Z

Ajj:

2nd Workshop on Supporting Polarised SANS Data

Thanks to the hard work of Steve King (ISIS), Dirk Honecker (ISIS), Lucas Wilkins (ISIS), and Annika Stellhorn (ESS) there is a proposed extension to the NXcanSAS v1.0 to support the various forms of polarized/magnetic SANS measurements that are performed.

They have written up the proposal on the canSAS wiki here : [[NXcanSAS_v1.1]]

They have worked to ensure compliance with the core definition of NXcanSAS with only additions to the standard needed and no other modifications.

To fully implement their vision, some underlying changes to NeXus would be needed, which they have discussed with Freddie Akeroyd as to the reasonableness of their proposal. Pete Jemian has offered to take these proposals to the NIAC.

In order for us to finalise the data format, we will hold a workshop/hackathon at ESS and are proposing April 2nd this year.

The goals of the workshop are to :
# Finalise the format (including deciding on which of the recommended proposals on the wiki we accept)
# Produce real-code example of implementation
# Outline the work needed to read the format into relevant codes (primarily SasView)
# Initiate the write up of proposal to NIAC for adoption as an update to the NXcansas definition.

== Agenda ==
In order to try to accommodate our US colleagues, we will arrange the day as follows (all times CEST, BST is -1 hour, EDT is -6 hours from CEST).

09:00 ESS tour (Annika, Dirk, Andrew)
11:00 On-site discussions and preparation (Annika, Dirk, Andrew)
12:00 Lunch
13:00 Overview of proposal
13:30 Summary of opinions/comments
14:00 Discussion of recommended items
14:30 Discussion and work on goals 2-4 (breakout as needed)
17:30 Close-out, next actions and work assignments.

== Participants ==
Annika Stellhorn (ESS)
Dirk Honecker (ISIS)
Lisa Debeer-Schmitt (ORNL)
Jonathan Gaudet (NIST)
Jeff Kryzwon (NIST)
Lucas Wilkins (ISIS)
Mial Lewis (ISIS)
Adrian Diaz Alvarez (ISIS)
Andrew Jackson (ESS)

== Meeting Notes ==

=== Overview of Proposal ===

Presentation from Annika & Dirk :

=== Summary of Opinions and Comments ===

=== Discussion of Recommended Items ===

=== Discussion and Work on Goals 2-4 ===

==== Implementation Example ====
ISIS Mantid team ...

==== Work needed to implement reading ====
Jeff Kryzwon / SasView

==== NIAC proposal ====
Figure out process ... what do we need to do (probably PR on relevant github repo?)

=== Closeout and Assignments ===

2nd Workshop on supporting Polarised SANS data

2025-04-02T09:30:29Z

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2nd Workshop on Supporting Polarised SANS Data

Thanks to the hard work of Steve King (ISIS), Dirk Honecker (ISIS), Lucas Wilkins (ISIS), and Annika Stellhorn (ESS) there is a proposed extension to the NXcanSAS v1.0 to support the various forms of polarized/magnetic SANS measurements that are performed.

They have written up the proposal on the canSAS wiki here : [[NXcanSAS_v1.1]]

They have worked to ensure compliance with the core definition of NXcanSAS with only additions to the standard needed and no other modifications.

To fully implement their vision, some underlying changes to NeXus would be needed, which they have discussed with Freddie Akeroyd as to the reasonableness of their proposal. Pete Jemian has offered to take these proposals to the NIAC.

In order for us to finalise the data format, we will hold a workshop/hackathon at ESS and are proposing April 2nd this year.

The goals of the workshop are to :
# Finalise the format (including deciding on which of the recommended proposals on the wiki we accept)
# Produce real-code example of implementation
# Outline the work needed to read the format into relevant codes (primarily SasView)
# Initiate the write up of proposal to NIAC for adoption as an update to the NXcansas definition.

== Agenda ==
In order to try to accommodate our US colleagues, we will arrange the day as follows (all times CEST, BST is -1 hour, EDT is -6 hours from CEST).

09:00 ESS tour (Annika, Dirk, Andrew)
11:00 On-site discussions and preparation (Annika, Dirk, Andrew)
12:00 Lunch
13:00 Overview of proposal
13:30 Summary of opinions/comments
14:00 Discussion of recommended items
14:30 Discussion and work on goals 2-4 (breakout as needed)
17:30 Close-out, next actions and work assignments.

The zoom link for the meeting is:

https://ess-eu.zoom.us/j/66831740211?pwd=qLisS5j3HQsAbdxbuvR4eB1QYk0zZ3.1&from=addon

== Meeting Notes ==

=== Overview of Proposal ===

Presentation from Annika & Dirk :

=== Summary of Opinions and Comments ===

=== Discussion of Recommended Items ===

=== Discussion and Work on Goals 2-4 ===

==== Implementation Example ====
ISIS Mantid team ...

==== Work needed to implement reading ====
Jeff Kryzwon / SasView

==== NIAC proposal ====
Figure out process ... what do we need to do (probably PR on relevant github repo?)

=== Closeout and Assignments ===

Data Formats Working Group

2025-04-02T09:24:36Z

Ajj:

= Overview =

As of early 2017, for new work, it is recommended to use the NXcanSAS (multi-dimensional)
standard for both 1-D and n-D data to maximize the chance that other
software will be able to read your data files.

We strongly encourage all authors of small-angle scattering related software to add support for NXcanSAS.

= Latest News =

[[User:Ajj|Andrew Jackson]]: 2025-04 : [[2nd Workshop on supporting Polarised SANS data]] in [[NXcanSAS v1.1|NXcanSAS 1.1]] held at ESS on 2nd April.

[[User:Smk|Steve King]]: 2024-09 : Proposals for [[NXcanSAS v1.1|NXcanSAS 1.1]] in development

[[User:Butler|Paul Butler]]: 2019-07 : Lots of discussion at [[canSAS-XI]] about metadata. Discussion and actions from the meeting are available [[canSAS-XI/DataFormats]]

= Links =

=== nD: NXcanSAS ===

standard for reduced small-angle scattering data of any dimension, using NeXus (HDF5)

* '''v1.1''': Proposals in development
* '''v1.0''': 2017-01-18
* '''Announced''': 2017-06-06 (at [[canSAS-IX]])
* '''Documentation''': [http://download.nexusformat.org/doc/html/classes/applications/NXcanSAS.html http://download.nexusformat.org/doc/html/classes/applications/NXcanSAS.html]
* '''Examples''': [https://github.com/canSAS-org/NXcanSAS_examples https://github.com/canSAS-org/NXcanSAS_examples]
* '''GitHub (NeXus)''': [https://github.com/nexusformat/definitions https://github.com/nexusformat/definitions]
* '''Poster''': [[Media:2017-05-09_NXcanSAS_2D_format.pdf|PDF]]
* '''CanSAS 2012 Discussion''': 2012-07-31 [[2012_Data_Discussion|Data formats discussion page]]

=== 1D: cansas1d ===

standard for 1-D reduced small-angle scattering data, using XML (text)

* v1.1: 2013-03-29
* v1.0: 2009-05-12

* '''Documentation''': [http://www.cansas.org/formats/canSAS1d/1.1/doc/ http://www.cansas.org/formats/canSAS1d/1.1/doc/]
* '''Examples''': [https://github.com/canSAS-org/1dwg/tree/master/examples https://github.com/canSAS-org/1dwg/tree/master/examples]
* '''GitHub''': [https://github.com/canSAS-org/1dwg https://github.com/canSAS-org/1dwg]

= Members =
* Andrew Jackson (ESS)- Chair
* Jeff Krzywon (NIST)
* Pete Jemian (APS)
* Steve King (ISIS)
* Andrew Nelson (ANSTO)
* Jan Ilavsky (APS)
* Lisa Debeer-Schmitt (ORNL)

= Timeline =
* 2007-12-31 agree on v1.0 format
* 2008-01-01 start implementing v1 at facilities
* 2008-06 representative sampling of data available for inter-facility comparison
* 2008-11-3 presentation of results at NOBUGS2008 meeting ([http://www.nbi.ansto.gov.au/nobugs2008 http://www.nbi.ansto.gov.au/nobugs2008])
* 2009-05-12 tagged SVN changeset 67 as v1.0 since it has been unmodified since January
* 2009-09-17 agreed that v1.1 revision should be forthcoming with corrections/additions to be identified in TRAC tickets
* 2017-01 NXcanSAS 1.0 released
* 2015-12 multidim moved to github a while ago

= Status =
[[User:Jemian|Jemian]] 11:10, 06 September 2008 (CDT) IgorPro GUI tool included in Irena [http://usaxs.xor.aps.anl.gov/staff/ilavsky/irena.html Irena] analysis suite 
[[User:Jemian|Jemian]] 13:08, 14 March 2008 (EDT) IgorPro tool to read cansas1d/1.0 XML files available 
[[User:Jemian|Jemian]] 13:38, 25 February 2008 (EST) starting to add case studies 
[[User:Jemian|Jemian]] 00:39, 21 December 2007 (EST) complete first draft (v0.1a) ready for comments from 1DWG 
[[User:Jemian|Jemian]] 12:00, 14 December 2007 (EST) draft status updated 
[[User:Jemian|Jemian]] 17:07, 12 May 2009 (EDT) changeset 67 tagged as v1.0

= Examples and Usage =
The following are example v1.1 compliant 1D data files containing [besides essential metadata] - right-click & save as to view, stylesheet is on the TRAC site: 
SANS data only [[media:ISIS_SASXML_v1_1_SANS_Example.XML | ISIS_SASXML_v1_1_SANS_Example.XML]] 
Wavelength-dependent transmission [[media:ISIS_SASXML_v1_1_Transmission_Example.XML | ISIS_SASXML_v1_1_Transmission_Example.XML]] 
Wavelength-dependent monitor spectrum [[media:ISIS_SASXML_v1_1_Monitor_Spectrum_Example.XML | ISIS_SASXML_v1_1_Monitor_Spectrum_Example.XML]] 
Wavelength-dependent detector efficiency ratio [[media:ISIS_SASXML_v1_1_Det_Efficiency_Example.XML | ISIS_SASXML_v1_1_Det_Efficency_Example.XML]] 

The files can be usefully displayed in many web browsers: [[Rendering_canSAS1D_in_Web_Browsers]]

[[Category:Working Groups]]

= Mailing List=

The mailing list is now maintained by subscribing to this Google group:

* [https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/cansas-dfwg https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/cansas-dfwg]

Please address all questions and answers to this Google group.

= Session Notes SAS2024 - Sun 2024-11-03 =
=== Topic 1: Magnetic/ Polarized SANS ===
* A new proposal for the .nxs format has been published on the wiki (see section "Latest News"), e.g. including the combination of all four polarization spin channels, as well as the necessary storage of the polarization efficiency information, the metadata, sample history, etc.

=== Topic 2: Complementary data ===
* It has to be addressed how multimodal experiments can be taken into account, i.e., we will need a data format for the storage, reading, and processing of multi-dimensional data.

=== Topic 3: Summary & To-Do ===
* Further extending the magnetic/ polarized SANS data format description?
* Complementary data description
* Advanced resolution descriptions of 1D,2D,3D resolution functions - here the question was raised if this topic should form a separate working group!
* Which techniques all have to be taken into account for multimodal experiments?
* Should a hackathon be organized? If yes, at the European Spallation Source?

=== Notes from the discussion round: ===
==== Related to magnetic/ polarized SANS ====
* Polarized beam issues - who can be contacted for this topic at which source? (This hasnt been discussed thoroughly)
* This formulism should not only be inserted for polarized neutrons, but also for polarized X-ray measurements! Note1: The proposed format is specialised on the polarization of neutrons, the proposed data format should be checked. Note2: Anyhow also a proposition for the data format of polarized X-ray measurements should be done! Should for this purpose the community of polarized neutrons and polarized X-rays work together?
* Also depolarization effects from the sample have to additionally be taken into accound! Note: Shouldnt this be part of the data analysis, at it is not per se clearly distinguishable from the polarization efficiency?

==== Related to resolution functions ====
* Important raised question: When speaking about a 3D Q-resolution function: what do we define as Qx,Qy,Qz? Do the Q-components in the standard definition have to be corrected for a projection issues due to flat detectors? Note1: Typically the measurement of Qx,Qy,Qz on a flat plane (flat detector) has to be corrected to correspond to the definition of Qx,Qy,Qz on Ewald sphere. Only these corrected Q-values should be exported for users. Note2: Actually this is not a question of correcting Q, but correcting the angles. Note3: This should be done for both, neutron and X-ray measurements! Note4: For a reliable correction one should measure and correct for a reference sample.
* In reference measurements the beam profile should be logged, as it goes hand in hand with defining the resolution function
* The question has been raised how to store/record the information on the resolution function? How can we keep the description of data formats in general easily extendable?
* The action has been raised to have a working meeting for this topic next year (2025)
* In general, the formation of a seperate working group on this topic was favoured by the audience! The relevant people should come together, and importantly, from different facilities/fields

Data Formats Working Group

2025-04-02T09:23:54Z

Ajj: /* Latest News */

= Overview =

As of early 2017, for new work, it is recommended to use the NXcanSAS (multi-dimensional)
standard for both 1-D and n-D data to maximize the chance that other
software will be able to read your data files.

We strongly encourage all authors of small-angle scattering related software to add support for NXcanSAS.

= Latest News =

[[User:Ajj|Andrew Jackson]]: 2025-04 : [[PolSANSNXcanSASWorkshop|2nd Workshop on supporting Polarised SANS data]] in [[NXcanSAS v1.1|NXcanSAS 1.1]] held at ESS on 2nd April.

[[User:Smk|Steve King]]: 2024-09 : Proposals for [[NXcanSAS v1.1|NXcanSAS 1.1]] in development

[[User:Butler|Paul Butler]]: 2019-07 : Lots of discussion at [[canSAS-XI]] about metadata. Discussion and actions from the meeting are available [[canSAS-XI/DataFormats]]

= Links =

=== nD: NXcanSAS ===

standard for reduced small-angle scattering data of any dimension, using NeXus (HDF5)

* '''v1.1''': Proposals in development
* '''v1.0''': 2017-01-18
* '''Announced''': 2017-06-06 (at [[canSAS-IX]])
* '''Documentation''': [http://download.nexusformat.org/doc/html/classes/applications/NXcanSAS.html http://download.nexusformat.org/doc/html/classes/applications/NXcanSAS.html]
* '''Examples''': [https://github.com/canSAS-org/NXcanSAS_examples https://github.com/canSAS-org/NXcanSAS_examples]
* '''GitHub (NeXus)''': [https://github.com/nexusformat/definitions https://github.com/nexusformat/definitions]
* '''Poster''': [[Media:2017-05-09_NXcanSAS_2D_format.pdf|PDF]]
* '''CanSAS 2012 Discussion''': 2012-07-31 [[2012_Data_Discussion|Data formats discussion page]]

=== 1D: cansas1d ===

standard for 1-D reduced small-angle scattering data, using XML (text)

* v1.1: 2013-03-29
* v1.0: 2009-05-12

* '''Documentation''': [http://www.cansas.org/formats/canSAS1d/1.1/doc/ http://www.cansas.org/formats/canSAS1d/1.1/doc/]
* '''Examples''': [https://github.com/canSAS-org/1dwg/tree/master/examples https://github.com/canSAS-org/1dwg/tree/master/examples]
* '''GitHub''': [https://github.com/canSAS-org/1dwg https://github.com/canSAS-org/1dwg]

= Members =
* Andrew Jackson (ESS)- Chair
* Jeff Krzywon (NIST)
* Pete Jemian (APS)
* Steve King (ISIS)
* Andrew Nelson (ANSTO)
* Jan Ilavsky (APS)
* Lisa Debeer-Schmitt (ORNL)

= Timeline =
* 2007-12-31 agree on v1.0 format
* 2008-01-01 start implementing v1 at facilities
* 2008-06 representative sampling of data available for inter-facility comparison
* 2008-11-3 presentation of results at NOBUGS2008 meeting ([http://www.nbi.ansto.gov.au/nobugs2008 http://www.nbi.ansto.gov.au/nobugs2008])
* 2009-05-12 tagged SVN changeset 67 as v1.0 since it has been unmodified since January
* 2009-09-17 agreed that v1.1 revision should be forthcoming with corrections/additions to be identified in TRAC tickets
* 2017-01 NXcanSAS 1.0 released
* 2015-12 multidim moved to github a while ago

= Status =
[[User:Jemian|Jemian]] 11:10, 06 September 2008 (CDT) IgorPro GUI tool included in Irena [http://usaxs.xor.aps.anl.gov/staff/ilavsky/irena.html Irena] analysis suite 
[[User:Jemian|Jemian]] 13:08, 14 March 2008 (EDT) IgorPro tool to read cansas1d/1.0 XML files available 
[[User:Jemian|Jemian]] 13:38, 25 February 2008 (EST) starting to add case studies 
[[User:Jemian|Jemian]] 00:39, 21 December 2007 (EST) complete first draft (v0.1a) ready for comments from 1DWG 
[[User:Jemian|Jemian]] 12:00, 14 December 2007 (EST) draft status updated 
[[User:Jemian|Jemian]] 17:07, 12 May 2009 (EDT) changeset 67 tagged as v1.0

= Examples and Usage =
The following are example v1.1 compliant 1D data files containing [besides essential metadata] - right-click & save as to view, stylesheet is on the TRAC site: 
SANS data only [[media:ISIS_SASXML_v1_1_SANS_Example.XML | ISIS_SASXML_v1_1_SANS_Example.XML]] 
Wavelength-dependent transmission [[media:ISIS_SASXML_v1_1_Transmission_Example.XML | ISIS_SASXML_v1_1_Transmission_Example.XML]] 
Wavelength-dependent monitor spectrum [[media:ISIS_SASXML_v1_1_Monitor_Spectrum_Example.XML | ISIS_SASXML_v1_1_Monitor_Spectrum_Example.XML]] 
Wavelength-dependent detector efficiency ratio [[media:ISIS_SASXML_v1_1_Det_Efficiency_Example.XML | ISIS_SASXML_v1_1_Det_Efficency_Example.XML]] 

The files can be usefully displayed in many web browsers: [[Rendering_canSAS1D_in_Web_Browsers]]

[[Category:Working Groups]]

= Mailing List=

The mailing list is now maintained by subscribing to this Google group:

* [https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/cansas-dfwg https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/cansas-dfwg]

Please address all questions and answers to this Google group.

= Session Notes SAS2024 - Sun 2024-11-03 =
=== Topic 1: Magnetic/ Polarized SANS ===
* A new proposal for the .nxs format has been published on the wiki (see section "Latest News"), e.g. including the combination of all four polarization spin channels, as well as the necessary storage of the polarization efficiency information, the metadata, sample history, etc.

=== Topic 2: Complementary data ===
* It has to be addressed how multimodal experiments can be taken into account, i.e., we will need a data format for the storage, reading, and processing of multi-dimensional data.

=== Topic 3: Summary & To-Do ===
* Further extending the magnetic/ polarized SANS data format description?
* Complementary data description
* Advanced resolution descriptions of 1D,2D,3D resolution functions - here the question was raised if this topic should form a separate working group!
* Which techniques all have to be taken into account for multimodal experiments?
* Should a hackathon be organized? If yes, at the European Spallation Source?

=== Notes from the discussion round: ===
==== Related to magnetic/ polarized SANS ====
* Polarized beam issues - who can be contacted for this topic at which source? (This hasnt been discussed thoroughly)
* This formulism should not only be inserted for polarized neutrons, but also for polarized X-ray measurements! Note1: The proposed format is specialised on the polarization of neutrons, the proposed data format should be checked. Note2: Anyhow also a proposition for the data format of polarized X-ray measurements should be done! Should for this purpose the community of polarized neutrons and polarized X-rays work together?
* Also depolarization effects from the sample have to additionally be taken into accound! Note: Shouldnt this be part of the data analysis, at it is not per se clearly distinguishable from the polarization efficiency?

==== Related to resolution functions ====
* Important raised question: When speaking about a 3D Q-resolution function: what do we define as Qx,Qy,Qz? Do the Q-components in the standard definition have to be corrected for a projection issues due to flat detectors? Note1: Typically the measurement of Qx,Qy,Qz on a flat plane (flat detector) has to be corrected to correspond to the definition of Qx,Qy,Qz on Ewald sphere. Only these corrected Q-values should be exported for users. Note2: Actually this is not a question of correcting Q, but correcting the angles. Note3: This should be done for both, neutron and X-ray measurements! Note4: For a reliable correction one should measure and correct for a reference sample.
* In reference measurements the beam profile should be logged, as it goes hand in hand with defining the resolution function
* The question has been raised how to store/record the information on the resolution function? How can we keep the description of data formats in general easily extendable?
* The action has been raised to have a working meeting for this topic next year (2025)
* In general, the formation of a seperate working group on this topic was favoured by the audience! The relevant people should come together, and importantly, from different facilities/fields

Final Discussion

2024-11-03T07:57:41Z

Ajj:

<big>'''Notes from FINAL canSAS 2024 General Discussion'''</big> 

__TOC__

- Meetings and Workshops

- Outreach at universities : Mu Ping Nieh - workshop at U Conn ... Topic??
- Meeting in 2025 at ESS? Resolution and data formats, who and what?
- Resolution discussion

Joe Kline list
- Andy Smith / Diamond
- Anna Sokolova
- Elliot
- Peter B
- Lionel
- Jan
- Sylvain
- Wim
- Anja

- Supporting standard sample? Difficult
- Find samples that look like what we normally measure (Sylvain) - need to have something that is of the same geometry and setup as normal samples.
- Discussion of different samples : AJJ suggested block copolymers
- Membrane samples from Brian Pauw
- Anna S : was difficult for standard due to orientation requirements
- Wim B : worked well for SESANS

- Outreach / Dissemination hackathon/working group
- Sample environment get together online (Katie W)
- Topical group : reduction (Anna) : should it be a working group?

Discussion of future meetings ...
- regular canSAS before SAS?
- small working group meetings?

PLAN :
- working group meetings
- online discussion in year
- general canSAS meeting in 2026 or early 2027

- Sylvain ... RALSAS? Where? Rob Dalgliesh+Rob Rambo organising?

canSAS-XIV

2024-11-03T07:44:48Z

Ajj:

As usual canSAS will hold some events in conjunction with the triennial [https://www.sas2024.tw/ SAS2024] meeting being held in Taipei Taiwan from 3-8 November 2024. canSAS-XIV will include a half day session on Sunday prior to the meeting and an open informational lunch session on Monday.

__TOC__

= Purpose =

The acronym canSAS stands for ''collective action for nomadic Small Angle Scatterers''. It is a bottom-up effort originally initiated in Grenoble by Ron Ghosh (ILL), Roland May (ILL), Peter Timmins (ILL), Claudio Ferrero (ESRF) and Wim Bras (DUBBLE CRG) in 1998. Ever since it has been an ongoing activity to provide the small-angle scattering user community with shared tools for data reduction and analysis, and disseminating other pertinent information (https://www.cansas.org). Lately the focus has been on data analysis and modelling software, instrument resolution corrections and other issues related to data interpretation.

A several day independent meeting is held every few years while shorter meetings are planned at the triennial SAS conferences to take advantage of the convening of the larger community as a whole.

= Activities =

* [[2024_Worshop | Sunday Workshop]]
* [[2024_Present | Monday Lunch presentation]]

= Session notes =

== Databases session: ==

Fair data - there are checkers available for example www/f-uji.net/

Public databases:
Catalog of fair databases: fairsharing.org brings up two databases, SASPDB and [xx?]
simplescattering.com
Zenodo also contains 14k datasets, also software.

Local databases:
SciCat: possibility to catalog datasets and instruments.
Tiled: data access framework linked to BlueSky, future connection with scicat will be done.

- A publicly accessible (scicat) catalog would be useful for labs to catalog public scattering datasets in.
- This could be taken up as part of the International Scattering Alliance, certainly falls within its remit. Needs a document to specify what is needed, what should be uploaded to it, and how much it would cost.
- Data to include in this would be (corrected, well-documented) data on easily accessible samples. This could include single phases (backgrounds) like water, hexane, toluene, acetone, PEG-DA, scotch tape, etc., and also reference samples such as the silver nanoparticle solutions. The datasets and samples should be well-described and ideally complete with a data processing graph.
- There should be a provision to add annotations (text, keywords, flags) to datasets, this could say a lot about the human interpretation of given datasets.
- This (and other well-documented databases) could have benefits for the third “user” group: the group of people that need your data to train ML systems.
- All databases need to have a good user interface that actually addresses the need of the user. Once you build that, and the user sees the benefit they get from this, they will come. For example, MX people cannot work without their dashboards. FAIR-compliant user interfaces need to become easy enough to use that it becomes prohibitively hard for the user not to follow the recommended pathway.
- We might need guidelines on how to describe a sample sufficiently well, so that they can be used in the analysis. This data, and the (corrected, fully described) data should be made available in a public repository at the latest at the time of publication.

= Organising Committee =

* Paul Butler (NIST)
* U-Ser Jeng (NSRRC)
* Orion Shih (NSRRC)
* Adrian Rennie (Uppsala U)
* Steve King (ISIS)
* Wojciech Potrzebowski (SciLifeLab)

Data Formats Working Group

2024-11-03T01:27:39Z

Ajj:

Data Formats Working Group

2024-10-25T11:41:43Z

Ajj: /* Members */

canSAS-XI/DataFormats

2019-07-09T15:26:19Z

Ajj: /* Actions */

=== Presentation ===

=== Session Notes ===

Jan : real world examples of nxcanSAS from facilities needed.
Tim suggests everyone putting them on Zenodo to get DOIs
Pete - post issues on cansas examples github

Pete - request for more examples of NXcanSAS files: https://github.com/canSAS-org/NXcanSAS_examples/issues/3#issuecomment-509619529

==== Reduced data from multiple detectors ====
* Is this a general problem?
* Jeff : looking at how to handle this for VSANS at NIST
* Issue for both raw and reduced : raw easier
* How to convert from raw to reduced? Very instrument dependent. Choice of detector combination to Q space varies with instrument and experiment and whether 1D or 2D
** AJJ : question is of multiple 2D q-spaces rather than detector spaces.
** Tim : multiple physical detectors vs moving detector
** AJJ : multiple SASdata entries in a single SASentry
** Jan : how to get software to read complex datasets (e.g. lots of mag fields with many detectors)
** AJJ : discussion of complexity ... some of the complex analyses will require the users to understand their data. Perhaps plugins in e.g. DPDAK?

* Sven-Jannik : Is there a standard location for motors etc. Not really ... each instrument/facility does it differently.
** can we have a standard set of metadata tags for NXcanSAS to support
* Armin : how about more detailed application definitions?
* Pete : Application definitions tend to be generic - can use search methods, specify nexus path on data loading as one way. Similar to translation dictionaries.
* Brian : how to include multi-modal data - probably at the same level as a SASentry
* Detectors : how do we link detector metadata to the q-spaces derived from them. e.g. multiple detector configurations might be used to give a single Q space. This is true for 1D as well.
* Stitching : discussion of stitching - U-Ser was interested in how we at SANS beamlines manage stiching - automated or manual. Explained that it still requires user input with expert help to define data combination routine and choices of overlap/data cutoff etc.

* Adam : SESANS data - what to do? Not I vs Q, but is small angle scattering. Should create equivalent of SASData for SESANS data. This allows for combined SANS/SESANS experiments to write one set of sample metadata and two datasets to file - similar to having multiple SASdata entries for eg USAXS+SAXS+WAXS

==== Discussion of dataset representation in python ====
Need dataset representation that maintains information about units and uncertainties and can ideally support other metadata.
* xarray - not fully featured.
* scippy (c++ version of xarray for mantid) - reinventing numpy! not what we are looking for here.
* DAWN has the java based dataset representation that supports uncertainties and units.

Large datasets are a problem - example of tomography/imaging where can't read whole file into memory. So need lazy data loading.
* nexpy supports network streaming / reading online rather than having to load whole dataset

==== Multiple detectors - multiple kinds of detector (Tim) ====
Not only do we have multiple detectors, but we might have multiple types of detector running at different frame rates e.g. optical camera + x-ray detector working at different frequencies. More frames from one than the other
* SAXS + WAXS at DESY - just write two nexus files to avoid the problem. Server issues and I/O
* I22 - timeframe generation (one file) + two separate detector files. Acquisition gives you a header nexus file linked to the others. Currently looking at stacking in the right order in data structures - slowest at top.
* ESS and other spallation sources - all timestamped so do post-hoc correlations.
* Pete - timestamping at synchrotrons will be coming. XPCS can use this.
* Brian : Visualisation
** Time slider bars - showing last collected image.

==== Metadata for Machine Learning ====
* Datasets generated by Diamond for machine learning project should be put online for others to use (3Tb issue!)
* Metadata from sample is required for most machine learning applications that would be useful to users.
* XPDF users need the information about the sample to be able to process data at all (same for liquids neutron diffraction).
* Need to move on from basics such as simple dimensions etc (Pete) - however, we don't know what we need to know to feed the machine learning algorithms.
* What are the users going to give us?
** Very little ... without encouragement
** Use header nexus file with link to raw detector data. Basically digital logbook.
** Pete - shouldn't limit metadata for edge cases. Need to have the metadata possible and turn off as needed.
** Pete - automated addition of data from proposal/safety form
** Brian - adding analyte composition and density etc.
** Pete - issue with NXsample : requires chemical formula, not composition.
** Some are easy for low throughput. Need an efficient way of entering the information.
** Should look at what the MX do.
** Needs to be end-to-end. Has to be a benefit to user.
** Machine learning : Pete - need some samples with bad metadata to teach algorithm!

=== Actions ===
* Implementation of a SESANSdata group equivalent to SASdata : '''Adam W to develop proposal'''

* Upload example datasets to Zenodo and/or github. (Relevant github issue here : https://github.com/canSAS-org/NXcanSAS_examples/issues/3#issuecomment-509619529) : '''Action for all canSAS who have data in NXcanSAS format'''

* Linking of detector metadata to sasdata entries. '''Jeff K to develop proposal'''

* Writing of notes with examples for NXcanSAS usage. Should be included in NXcanSAS documentation or on cansas.org. Needs to be more than just developer docs : '''Action for all canSAS who have examples of how they have used NXcanSAS for specific cases'''.

* Build a list of suggested metadata with standard names. Including how to build sample descriptions. '''Brian P to write a proposal for sample relevant metadata and to circulate to Data Formats group'''

canSAS-XI/DataFormats

2019-07-09T15:01:29Z

Ajj:

=== Presentation ===

=== Session Notes ===

Jan : real world examples of nxcanSAS from facilities needed.
Tim suggests everyone putting them on Zenodo to get DOIs
Pete - post issues on cansas examples github

Pete - request for more examples of NXcanSAS files: https://github.com/canSAS-org/NXcanSAS_examples/issues/3#issuecomment-509619529

==== Reduced data from multiple detectors ====
* Is this a general problem?
* Jeff : looking at how to handle this for VSANS at NIST
* Issue for both raw and reduced : raw easier
* How to convert from raw to reduced? Very instrument dependent. Choice of detector combination to Q space varies with instrument and experiment and whether 1D or 2D
** AJJ : question is of multiple 2D q-spaces rather than detector spaces.
** Tim : multiple physical detectors vs moving detector
** AJJ : multiple SASdata entries in a single SASentry
** Jan : how to get software to read complex datasets (e.g. lots of mag fields with many detectors)
** AJJ : discussion of complexity ... some of the complex analyses will require the users to understand their data. Perhaps plugins in e.g. DPDAK?

* Sven-Jannik : Is there a standard location for motors etc. Not really ... each instrument/facility does it differently.
** can we have a standard set of metadata tags for NXcanSAS to support
* Armin : how about more detailed application definitions?
* Pete : Application definitions tend to be generic - can use search methods, specify nexus path on data loading as one way. Similar to translation dictionaries.
* Brian : how to include multi-modal data - probably at the same level as a SASentry
* Detectors : how do we link detector metadata to the q-spaces derived from them. e.g. multiple detector configurations might be used to give a single Q space. This is true for 1D as well.
* Stitching : discussion of stitching - U-Ser was interested in how we at SANS beamlines manage stiching - automated or manual. Explained that it still requires user input with expert help to define data combination routine and choices of overlap/data cutoff etc.

* Adam : SESANS data - what to do? Not I vs Q, but is small angle scattering. Should create equivalent of SASData for SESANS data. This allows for combined SANS/SESANS experiments to write one set of sample metadata and two datasets to file - similar to having multiple SASdata entries for eg USAXS+SAXS+WAXS

==== Discussion of dataset representation in python ====
Need dataset representation that maintains information about units and uncertainties and can ideally support other metadata.
* xarray - not fully featured.
* scippy (c++ version of xarray for mantid) - reinventing numpy! not what we are looking for here.
* DAWN has the java based dataset representation that supports uncertainties and units.

Large datasets are a problem - example of tomography/imaging where can't read whole file into memory. So need lazy data loading.
* nexpy supports network streaming / reading online rather than having to load whole dataset

==== Multiple detectors - multiple kinds of detector (Tim) ====
Not only do we have multiple detectors, but we might have multiple types of detector running at different frame rates e.g. optical camera + x-ray detector working at different frequencies. More frames from one than the other
* SAXS + WAXS at DESY - just write two nexus files to avoid the problem. Server issues and I/O
* I22 - timeframe generation (one file) + two separate detector files. Acquisition gives you a header nexus file linked to the others. Currently looking at stacking in the right order in data structures - slowest at top.
* ESS and other spallation sources - all timestamped so do post-hoc correlations.
* Pete - timestamping at synchrotrons will be coming. XPCS can use this.
* Brian : Visualisation
** Time slider bars - showing last collected image.

==== Metadata for Machine Learning ====
* Datasets generated by Diamond for machine learning project should be put online for others to use (3Tb issue!)
* Metadata from sample is required for most machine learning applications that would be useful to users.
* XPDF users need the information about the sample to be able to process data at all (same for liquids neutron diffraction).
* Need to move on from basics such as simple dimensions etc (Pete) - however, we don't know what we need to know to feed the machine learning algorithms.
* What are the users going to give us?
** Very little ... without encouragement
** Use header nexus file with link to raw detector data. Basically digital logbook.
** Pete - shouldn't limit metadata for edge cases. Need to have the metadata possible and turn off as needed.
** Pete - automated addition of data from proposal/safety form
** Brian - adding analyte composition and density etc.
** Pete - issue with NXsample : requires chemical formula, not composition.
** Some are easy for low throughput. Need an efficient way of entering the information.
** Should look at what the MX do.
** Needs to be end-to-end. Has to be a benefit to user.
** Machine learning : Pete - need some samples with bad metadata to teach algorithm!

=== Actions ===
* Implementation of a SESANSdata group equivalent to SASdata : '''Adam W to develop proposal'''

* Upload example datasets to Zenodo and/or github. (Relevant github issue here : https://github.com/canSAS-org/NXcanSAS_examples/issues/3#issuecomment-509619529) : '''Action for all canSAS who have data in NXcanSAS format'''

* Linking of detector metadata to sasdata entries. '''AJJ to develop proposal in absence of other volunteers!'''

* Writing of notes with examples for NXcanSAS usage. Should be included in NXcanSAS documentation or on cansas.org. Needs to be more than just developer docs : '''Action for all canSAS who have examples of how they have used NXcanSAS for specific cases'''.

* Build a list of suggested metadata with standard names. Including how to build sample descriptions. '''Brian P to write a proposal for sample relevant metadata and to circulate to Data Formats group'''

canSAS-XI/DataFormats

2019-07-09T14:41:40Z

Ajj: /* Session Notes */

=== Presentation ===

=== Session Notes ===

Jan : real world examples of nxcanSAS from facilities needed.
Tim suggests everyone putting them on Zenodo to get DOIs
Pete - post issues on cansas examples github

Pete - request for more examples of NXcanSAS files: https://github.com/canSAS-org/NXcanSAS_examples/issues/3#issuecomment-509619529

==== Reduced data from multiple detectors ====
* Is this a general problem?
* Jeff : looking at how to handle this for VSANS at NIST
* Issue for both raw and reduced : raw easier
* How to convert from raw to reduced? Very instrument dependent. Choice of detector combination to Q space varies with instrument and experiment and whether 1D or 2D
** AJJ : question is of multiple 2D q-spaces rather than detector spaces.
** Tim : multiple physical detectors vs moving detector
** AJJ : multiple SASdata entries in a single SASentry
** Jan : how to get software to read complex datasets (e.g. lots of mag fields with many detectors)
** AJJ : discussion of complexity ... some of the complex analyses will require the users to understand their data. Perhaps plugins in e.g. DPDAK?

* Sven-Jannik : Is there a standard location for motors etc. Not really ... each instrument/facility does it differently.
** can we have a standard set of metadata tags for NXcanSAS to support
* Armin : how about more detailed application definitions?

- Pete - search methods, specify search path.
- Adam : SESANS data - should create equivalent of SASData for SESANS data.
- Brian : how to include multi-modal data - probably at the same level as a SASentry
- Detectors : how do we link detector metadata to the q-spaces derived from them. e.g. multiple detector configurations might be used to give a single Q space. This is true for 1D as well.
- Stitching : discussion of stitching. How is it automated.

==== Discussion of dataset representation in python ====
- xarray - not fully featured.
- scippy (c++ version of xarray for mantid) - reinventing numpy! not what we are looking for here.
- DAWN has something
- nexpy supports network streaming / reading online rather than having to load whole dataset

==== Multiple detectors - multiple kinds of detector (Tim) ====
- e.g. optical camera + x-ray detector working at different frequencies. More frames from one than the other
- SAXS + WAXS at DESY - just write two nexus files to avoid the problem. Server issues and I/O
- I22 - timeframe generation (one file) + two separate detector files. Acquisition gives you a header nexus file linked to the others. Currently looking at stacking in the right order in data structures - slowest at top.
- ESS - all timestamped ...
- Pete - timestamping at synchrotrons will be coming. XPCS can use this.
- Brian : Visualisation
- Time slider bars - showing last collected image.

==== Metadata for Machine Learning ====
- Datasets generated by Diamond should be put online (3Tb issue!)
- Metadata from sample is required.
- XPDF users need the information about the sample. (same for liquids neutron diffraction).
- Need to move on from basics (Pete) - don't know what we need to know to feed the machine learning algorithms.
- What are the users going to give us?
- Very little ...
- Use header nexus file with link to raw detector data. Basically digital logbook.
- Pete - shouldn't limit metadata for edge cases. Need to have the metadata possible and turn off as needed.
- Pete - automated addition of data from proposal/safety form
- Brian - adding analyte composition and density etc.
- Pete - issue with NXsample : requires chemical formula, not composition.
- Some are easy for low throughput. Need an efficient way of entering the information.
- Should look at what the MX do.
- Needs to be end-to-end. Has to be a benefit to user.
- Machine learning : Pete - need some samples with bad metadata to teach algorithm!

=== Actions ===
- Implementation of a SESANSdata group equivalent to SASdata : Adam W to develop proposal.

- Identify the right location for data sets and upload to Zenodo and/or github. (https://github.com/canSAS-org/NXcanSAS_examples/issues/3#issuecomment-509619529)

- Linking of detector metadata to sasdata entries.

- Writing of notes with examples for NXcanSAS usage. Should be included in NXcanSAS documentation or on cansas.org. Needs to be more than just developer docs.

- Build a list of suggested metadata with standard names. Including how to build sample descriptions. '''Brian P to write a proposal for sample relevant metadata and to circulate to Data Formats group'''

canSAS-XI/DataFormats

2019-07-09T13:57:19Z

Ajj:

=== Presentation ===

=== Session Notes ===

Jan : real world examples of nxcanSAS from facilities needed.
Tim suggests everyone putting them on Zenodo to get DOIs
Pete - post issues on cansas examples github

Pete - request for more examples of NXcanSAS files: https://github.com/canSAS-org/NXcanSAS_examples/issues/3#issuecomment-509619529

Reduced data from multiple detectors ....
- Is this a general problem
- Jeff : looking at how to handle this for VSANS
- Issue for both raw and reduced : raw easier
- How to convert?
- AJJ : question is of multiple 2D q-spaces rather than detector spaces.
- Tim : multiple physical detectors vs moving detector
- AJJ : multiple SASdata entries in a single SASentry
- Jan : how to get software to read complex datasets (e.g. lots of mag fields with many detectors)
- AJJ : discussion of complexity ... some of the complex analyses will require the users to understand their data. Perhaps plugins in e.g. DPDAK?

- Is there a standard location for motors etc. Not really ... each instrument/facility does it differently.
- can we have a standard set of metadata tags for NXcanSAS to support
- how about more detailed application definitions?

- Pete - search methods, specify search path.
- Adam : SESANS data - should create equivalent of SASData for SESANS data.
- Brian : how to include multi-modal data - probably at the same level as a SASentry
- Detectors : how do we link detector metadata to the q-spaces derived from them. e.g. multiple detector configurations might be used to give a single Q space. This is true for 1D as well.
- Stitching : discussion of stitching. How is it automated.

Discussion of dataset representation in python
- xarray - not fully featured.
- scippy (c++ version of xarray for mantid) - reinventing numpy! not what we are looking for here.
- DAWN has something
- nexpy supports network streaming / reading online rather than having to load whole dataset

Multiple detectors - multiple kinds of detector (Tim)
- e.g. optical camera + x-ray detector working at different frequencies. More frames from one than the other
- SAXS + WAXS at DESY - just write two nexus files to avoid the problem. Server issues and I/O
- I22 - timeframe generation (one file) + two separate detector files. Acquisition gives you a header nexus file linked to the others. Currently looking at stacking in the right order in data structures - slowest at top.
- ESS - all timestamped ...
- Pete - timestamping at synchrotrons will be coming. XPCS can use this.
- Brian : Visualisation
- Time slider bars - showing last collected image.

Metadata for Machine Learning
- Datasets generated by Diamond should be put online (3Tb issue!)
- Metadata from sample is required.
- XPDF users need the information about the sample. (same for liquids neutron diffraction).
- Need to move on from basics (Pete) - don't know what we need to know to feed the machine learning algorithms.
- What are the users going to give us?
- Very little ...
- Use header nexus file with link to raw detector data. Basically digital logbook.
- Pete - shouldn't limit metadata for edge cases. Need to have the metadata possible and turn off as needed.
- Pete - automated addition of data from proposal/safety form
- Brian - adding analyte composition and density etc.
- Pete - issue with NXsample : requires chemical formula, not composition.
- Some are easy for low throughput. Need an efficient way of entering the information.
- Should look at what the MX do.
- Needs to be end-to-end. Has to be a benefit to user.
- Machine learning : Pete - need some samples with bad metadata to teach algorithm!

=== Actions ===
- Implementation of a SESANSdata group equivalent to SASdata : Adam W to develop proposal.

- Identify the right location for data sets and upload to Zenodo and/or github. (https://github.com/canSAS-org/NXcanSAS_examples/issues/3#issuecomment-509619529)

- Linking of detector metadata to sasdata entries.

- Writing of notes with examples for NXcanSAS usage. Should be included in NXcanSAS documentation or on cansas.org. Needs to be more than just developer docs.

- Build a list of suggested metadata with standard names. Including how to build sample descriptions. '''Brian P to write a proposal for sample relevant metadata and to circulate to Data Formats group'''

canSAS-XI/DataFormats

2019-07-09T13:26:08Z

Ajj:

=== Presentation ===

=== Session Notes ===

Jan : real world examples of nxcanSAS from facilities needed.
Tim suggests everyone putting them on Zenodo to get DOIs
Pete - post issues on cansas examples github

Reduced data from multiple detectors ....
- Is this a general problem
- Jeff : looking at how to handle this for VSANS
- Issue for both raw and reduced : raw easier
- How to convert?
- AJJ : question is of multiple 2D q-spaces rather than detector spaces.
- Tim : multiple physical detectors vs moving detector
- AJJ : multiple SASdata entries in a single SASentry
- Jan : how to get software to read complex datasets (e.g. lots of mag fields with many detectors)
- AJJ : discussion of complexity ... some of the complex analyses will require the users to understand their data. Perhaps plugins in e.g. DPDAK?

- Is there a standard location for motors etc. Not really ... each instrument/facility does it differently.
- can we have a standard set of metadata tags for NXcanSAS to support
- how about more detailed application definitions?

- Pete - search methods, specify search path.
- Adam : SESANS data - should create equivalent of SASData for SESANS data.
- Brian : how to include multi-modal data - probably at the same level as a SASentry
- Detectors : how do we link detector metadata to the q-spaces derived from them. e.g. multiple detector configurations might be used to give a single Q space. This is true for 1D as well.
- Stitching : discussion of stitching. How is it automated.

Discussion of dataset representation in python
- xarray - not fully featured.
- scippy (c++ version of xarray for mantid) - reinventing numpy! not what we are looking for here.
- DAWN has something
- nexpy supports network streaming / reading online rather than having to load whole dataset

Multiple detectors - multiple kinds of detector (Tim)
- e.g. optical camera + x-ray detector working at different frequencies. More frames from one than the other
- SAXS + WAXS at DESY - just write two nexus files to avoid the problem. Server issues and I/O
- I22 - timeframe generation (one file) + two separate detector files. Acquisition gives you a header nexus file linked to the others. Currently looking at stacking in the right order in data structures - slowest at top.
- ESS - all timestamped ...
- Pete - timestamping at synchrotrons will be coming. XPCS can use this.
- Brian : Visualisation
- Time slider bars - showing last collected image.

Metadata for Machine Learning
- Datasets generated by Diamond should be put online (3Tb issue!)
- Metadata from sample is required.
- XPDF users need the information about the sample. (same for liquids neutron diffraction).
- Need to move on from basics (Pete) - don't know what we need to know to feed the machine learning algorithms.
- What are the users going to give us?
- Very little ...
- Use header nexus file with link to raw detector data. Basically digital logbook.
- Pete - shouldn't limit metadata for edge cases. Need to have the metadata possible and turn off as needed.
- Pete - automated addition of data from proposal/safety form
- Brian - adding analyte composition and density etc.
- Pete - issue with NXsample : requires chemical formula, not composition.
- Some are easy for low throughput. Need an efficient way of entering the information.
- Should look at what the MX do.
- Needs to be end-to-end. Has to be a benefit to user.
- Machine learning : Pete - need some samples with bad metadata to teach algorithm!

=== Actions ===
- Identify the right location for data sets and upload to Zenodo and/or github.

- Linking of detector metadata to sasdata entries.

- Writing of notes with examples for NXcanSAS usage.

- Build a list of suggested metadata with standard names. Including how to build sample descriptions. '''Brian P to write a proposal for sample relevant metadata and to circulate to Data Formats group'''

canSAS-XI/DataFormats

2019-07-09T12:55:38Z

Ajj: Created page with " === Presentation === === Session Notes === Jan : real world examples of nxcanSAS from facilities needed. Tim suggests everyone putting them on Zenodo to get DOIs Pete - p..."

=== Presentation ===

=== Session Notes ===

Jan : real world examples of nxcanSAS from facilities needed.
Tim suggests everyone putting them on Zenodo to get DOIs
Pete - post issues on cansas examples github

Reduced data from multiple detectors ....
- Is this a general problem
- Jeff : looking at how to handle this for VSANS
- Issue for both raw and reduced : raw easier
- How to convert?
- AJJ : question is of multiple 2D q-spaces rather than detector spaces.
- Tim : multiple physical detectors vs moving detector
- AJJ : multiple SASdata entries in a single SASentry
- Jan : how to get software to read complex datasets (e.g. lots of mag fields with many detectors)
- AJJ : discussion of complexity ... some of the complex analyses will require the users to understand their data. Perhaps plugins in e.g. DPDAK?

- Is there a standard location for motors etc. Not really ... each instrument/facility does it differently.
- can we have a standard set of metadata tags for NXcanSAS to support
- how about more detailed application definitions?

- Pete - search methods, specify search path.
- Adam : SESANS data - should create equivalent of SASData for SESANS data.
- Brian : how to include multi-modal data - probably at the same level as a SASentry
- Detectors : how do we link detector metadata to the q-spaces derived from them. e.g. multiple detector configurations might be used to give a single Q space. This is true for 1D as well.
- Stitching : discussion of stitching. How is it automated.

=== Actions ===
- Identify the right location for data sets and upload to Zenodo and/or github.

- Linking of detector metadata to sasdata entries.

- Writing of notes with examples for NXcanSAS usage.

canSAS-XI/TOFSANS

2019-07-09T12:10:40Z

Ajj: /* Presentations */

Chair : Andrew Jackson

=== Presentations ===

Session Plenary overview : [[Media:TOF-SANS BlessingorCurse.pdf|TOF-SANS Blessing or Curse?]]

Judith Houston : [[Media:CanSAS LoKI Detectors July2019.pdf| LoKI Detectors]]

Sebastian Jaksch :

Anna Sokolova : [[Media:Sokolova canSAS 2019 final.pdf| Experiences from Bilby]]

=== Session Notes ===

=== Actions ===

- Formation of a TOF-SANS working group : AJJ

File:CanSAS LoKI Detectors July2019.pdf

2019-07-09T12:05:00Z

Ajj: Presentation from Judith Houston at canSAS-XI in the TOF-SANS discussion session

Presentation from Judith Houston at canSAS-XI in the TOF-SANS discussion session

File:Sokolova canSAS 2019 final.pdf

2019-07-09T12:04:12Z

Ajj: Presentation from Anna Sokolova at canSAS-XI in the TOF-SANS discussion session.

Presentation from Anna Sokolova at canSAS-XI in the TOF-SANS discussion session.

File:TOF-SANS BlessingorCurse.pdf

2019-07-09T12:02:46Z

Ajj: Plenary presentation from canSAS-XI in Friesing introducing the TOF-SANS discussion group

Plenary presentation from canSAS-XI in Friesing introducing the TOF-SANS discussion group

canSAS-XI/TOFSANS

2019-07-09T11:52:56Z

Ajj: Created page with "Chair : Andrew Jackson === Presentations === Session Plenary overview : Judith Houston : Sebastian Jaksch : Anna Sokolova : === Session Notes === === Actions === -..."

Chair : Andrew Jackson

=== Presentations ===

Session Plenary overview :

Judith Houston :
Sebastian Jaksch :
Anna Sokolova :

=== Session Notes ===

=== Actions ===

- Formation of a TOF-SANS working group : AJJ

canSAS-XI/Dissemination

2019-07-09T11:48:15Z

Ajj: Created page with "Chair : Adrian Rennie === Session Notes === A youtube channel has been created : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwECVEHm8JhMCyGiqfZQYVQ === Actions ==="

Chair : Adrian Rennie

=== Session Notes ===

A youtube channel has been created : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwECVEHm8JhMCyGiqfZQYVQ

=== Actions ===

canSAS-XI/GISAS

2019-07-08T17:02:06Z

Ajj: /* Discussion session on GISAS */

== Discussion session on GISAS ==
Chair : Eva M Herzig

<<upload introductory presentation from plenary as PDF and link here >>

== Session Notes ==

== Actions ==

canSAS-XI

2019-07-08T16:55:12Z

Ajj: /* canSAS-XI Workshop */

The 11th canSAS workshop was held 8 to 10 July 2019 in Freising Germany. Practical information is available on the web at:

http://www.fz-juelich.de/jcns/EN/Leistungen/ConferencesAndWorkshops/canSASXI/_node.html

__TOC__

== Program ==

=== Monday July 8 ===

{| border='1' width=700px
|-
|width=100px |11:00 - 12:00 || colspan=3 | Registration
|-
|12:00 - 13:00 || colspan=3 | Lunch
|-
|13:00 - 14:30 || colspan=3 | Welcome and Short introduction of each participant
|-
|14:30 - 15:30 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Breakout session introductions : GISAS, Software, & Reduction/Reconstruction - Multiple Scattering
|-
|15:30 - 16:00 || colspan=3 | Coffee Break
|-
|16:00 - 17:30 || width=200px | Breakout : [[canSAS-XI/GISAS|GISAS]] Chair : Eva M Herzig || width=150px | Breakout : [[canSAS-XI/Software|Software]] Chair : Paul Butler || width=250px | Breakout : [[cansas-XI/MultipleScattering|Multiple Scattering]] Chair : Theyencheri Narayanan
|-
|17:30 - 18:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Reporting from each group (5 min) + discussion
|-
|18:00 - 18:30 || colspan=3 | Talk by M. Schwartzkopf on "Tackling high data rates in GISAXS: Current status and future challenges"
|-
|18:30 - 19:30 || colspan=3 | POSTER SESSION on new instrumental developments/ Software/ Sample environment/ etc.
|-
|19:30 || colspan=3 | Dinner

|}

=== Tuesday July 9 ===

{| border='1' width=700px
|-
|width=100px | 09:00 - 10:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Breakout session introductions : Sample Environment, TOF-SANS & Reduction/Reconstruction
|-
|10:00 - 11:30 || width=200px |Breakout : Sample Environment Chair : Katie Weigandt || width=200px | Breakout : TOF-SANS Chairs : Jackson & Sokolova || width=200px | Breakout : Extended Q-range Chair : Wim Bouwman
|-
|11:30 - 12:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Reporting from each group (5 min) + discussion
|-
|12:00 - 13:00 || colspan=3 | Lunch
|-
|13:00 - 14:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Breakout session introductions : Dissemination, Data Formats & Reduction/Reconstruction
|-
|14:00 - 15:30 || width=200px | Breakout : Dissemination Chair : Adrian Rennie || width=150px | Breakout : Data Formats Chair : Tim Snow || width=250px | Breakout : Reduction Reconstruction Chair : Sylvain Prevost
|-
|15:30 - 16:00 || colspan=3 | Coffee Break
|-
|16:00 - 16:30 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Reporting from each group (5 min) + discussion
|-
|16:30 - 17:30 || colspan=3 | POSTER SESSION on new instrumental developments/ Software/ Sample environment/ etc.
|-
|17:30 - 19:00 || colspan=3 | Transfer to and tour of the Weihenstephan Brewery
|-
|19:00 || colspan=3 | Dinner

|}

=== Wednesday July 10 ===

{| border='1' width=700px
|-
|width=100px | 09:00 - 09:30 || colspan=2 | PLENARY: Talk by Roberto Coppola on Steel investigations using SANS || rowspan=3 | Breakout rooms available ...
|-
|09:30 - 10:00 || colspan=2 | PLENARY: Talk by Satoshi Koizumi on SANS at the compact neutron source
|-
|10:00 - 10:30 || colspan=2 |Talk by Yi-Qi Yeh/ U-Ser Jeng on Stoichiometric unfolding of bovine serum albumin
|-
|10:30 - 11:00 || colspan=3 | Coffee Break
|-
|11:00 - 12:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : General discussion, wrap-up & actions
|-
|12:00 - 13:00 || colspan=3 | Lunch
|-
|13:30 - 15:30 || colspan=3 | Reactor tour at MLZ / FRM-II
|-
|15:30 || colspan=3 | Bus from MLZ to Airport
|}

canSAS-XI

2019-07-08T16:54:42Z

Ajj: /* canSAS-XI Workshop */

= canSAS-XI Workshop =

The 11th canSAS workshop was held 8 to 10 July 2019 in Freising Germany. Practical information is available on the web at:

http://www.fz-juelich.de/jcns/EN/Leistungen/ConferencesAndWorkshops/canSASXI/_node.html

__TOC__

== Program ==

=== Monday July 8 ===

{| border='1' width=700px
|-
|width=100px |11:00 - 12:00 || colspan=3 | Registration
|-
|12:00 - 13:00 || colspan=3 | Lunch
|-
|13:00 - 14:30 || colspan=3 | Welcome and Short introduction of each participant
|-
|14:30 - 15:30 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Breakout session introductions : GISAS, Software, & Reduction/Reconstruction - Multiple Scattering
|-
|15:30 - 16:00 || colspan=3 | Coffee Break
|-
|16:00 - 17:30 || width=200px | Breakout : [[canSAS-XI/GISAS|GISAS]] Chair : Eva M Herzig || width=150px | Breakout : [[canSAS-XI/Software|Software]] Chair : Paul Butler || width=250px | Breakout : [[cansas-XI/MultipleScattering|Multiple Scattering]] Chair : Theyencheri Narayanan
|-
|17:30 - 18:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Reporting from each group (5 min) + discussion
|-
|18:00 - 18:30 || colspan=3 | Talk by M. Schwartzkopf on "Tackling high data rates in GISAXS: Current status and future challenges"
|-
|18:30 - 19:30 || colspan=3 | POSTER SESSION on new instrumental developments/ Software/ Sample environment/ etc.
|-
|19:30 || colspan=3 | Dinner

|}

=== Tuesday July 9 ===

{| border='1' width=700px
|-
|width=100px | 09:00 - 10:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Breakout session introductions : Sample Environment, TOF-SANS & Reduction/Reconstruction
|-
|10:00 - 11:30 || width=200px |Breakout : Sample Environment Chair : Katie Weigandt || width=200px | Breakout : TOF-SANS Chairs : Jackson & Sokolova || width=200px | Breakout : Extended Q-range Chair : Wim Bouwman
|-
|11:30 - 12:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Reporting from each group (5 min) + discussion
|-
|12:00 - 13:00 || colspan=3 | Lunch
|-
|13:00 - 14:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Breakout session introductions : Dissemination, Data Formats & Reduction/Reconstruction
|-
|14:00 - 15:30 || width=200px | Breakout : Dissemination Chair : Adrian Rennie || width=150px | Breakout : Data Formats Chair : Tim Snow || width=250px | Breakout : Reduction Reconstruction Chair : Sylvain Prevost
|-
|15:30 - 16:00 || colspan=3 | Coffee Break
|-
|16:00 - 16:30 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Reporting from each group (5 min) + discussion
|-
|16:30 - 17:30 || colspan=3 | POSTER SESSION on new instrumental developments/ Software/ Sample environment/ etc.
|-
|17:30 - 19:00 || colspan=3 | Transfer to and tour of the Weihenstephan Brewery
|-
|19:00 || colspan=3 | Dinner

|}

=== Wednesday July 10 ===

{| border='1' width=700px
|-
|width=100px | 09:00 - 09:30 || colspan=2 | PLENARY: Talk by Roberto Coppola on Steel investigations using SANS || rowspan=3 | Breakout rooms available ...
|-
|09:30 - 10:00 || colspan=2 | PLENARY: Talk by Satoshi Koizumi on SANS at the compact neutron source
|-
|10:00 - 10:30 || colspan=2 |Talk by Yi-Qi Yeh/ U-Ser Jeng on Stoichiometric unfolding of bovine serum albumin
|-
|10:30 - 11:00 || colspan=3 | Coffee Break
|-
|11:00 - 12:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : General discussion, wrap-up & actions
|-
|12:00 - 13:00 || colspan=3 | Lunch
|-
|13:30 - 15:30 || colspan=3 | Reactor tour at MLZ / FRM-II
|-
|15:30 || colspan=3 | Bus from MLZ to Airport
|}

canSAS-XI

2019-07-08T16:54:29Z

Ajj: /* canSAS-XI Workshop */

= canSAS-XI Workshop =

The 11th canSAS workshop was held 8 to 10 July 2019 in Freising Germany. Mark your calendars! Practical information is available on the web at:

http://www.fz-juelich.de/jcns/EN/Leistungen/ConferencesAndWorkshops/canSASXI/_node.html

__TOC__

== Program ==

=== Monday July 8 ===

{| border='1' width=700px
|-
|width=100px |11:00 - 12:00 || colspan=3 | Registration
|-
|12:00 - 13:00 || colspan=3 | Lunch
|-
|13:00 - 14:30 || colspan=3 | Welcome and Short introduction of each participant
|-
|14:30 - 15:30 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Breakout session introductions : GISAS, Software, & Reduction/Reconstruction - Multiple Scattering
|-
|15:30 - 16:00 || colspan=3 | Coffee Break
|-
|16:00 - 17:30 || width=200px | Breakout : [[canSAS-XI/GISAS|GISAS]] Chair : Eva M Herzig || width=150px | Breakout : [[canSAS-XI/Software|Software]] Chair : Paul Butler || width=250px | Breakout : [[cansas-XI/MultipleScattering|Multiple Scattering]] Chair : Theyencheri Narayanan
|-
|17:30 - 18:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Reporting from each group (5 min) + discussion
|-
|18:00 - 18:30 || colspan=3 | Talk by M. Schwartzkopf on "Tackling high data rates in GISAXS: Current status and future challenges"
|-
|18:30 - 19:30 || colspan=3 | POSTER SESSION on new instrumental developments/ Software/ Sample environment/ etc.
|-
|19:30 || colspan=3 | Dinner

|}

=== Tuesday July 9 ===

{| border='1' width=700px
|-
|width=100px | 09:00 - 10:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Breakout session introductions : Sample Environment, TOF-SANS & Reduction/Reconstruction
|-
|10:00 - 11:30 || width=200px |Breakout : Sample Environment Chair : Katie Weigandt || width=200px | Breakout : TOF-SANS Chairs : Jackson & Sokolova || width=200px | Breakout : Extended Q-range Chair : Wim Bouwman
|-
|11:30 - 12:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Reporting from each group (5 min) + discussion
|-
|12:00 - 13:00 || colspan=3 | Lunch
|-
|13:00 - 14:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Breakout session introductions : Dissemination, Data Formats & Reduction/Reconstruction
|-
|14:00 - 15:30 || width=200px | Breakout : Dissemination Chair : Adrian Rennie || width=150px | Breakout : Data Formats Chair : Tim Snow || width=250px | Breakout : Reduction Reconstruction Chair : Sylvain Prevost
|-
|15:30 - 16:00 || colspan=3 | Coffee Break
|-
|16:00 - 16:30 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Reporting from each group (5 min) + discussion
|-
|16:30 - 17:30 || colspan=3 | POSTER SESSION on new instrumental developments/ Software/ Sample environment/ etc.
|-
|17:30 - 19:00 || colspan=3 | Transfer to and tour of the Weihenstephan Brewery
|-
|19:00 || colspan=3 | Dinner

|}

=== Wednesday July 10 ===

{| border='1' width=700px
|-
|width=100px | 09:00 - 09:30 || colspan=2 | PLENARY: Talk by Roberto Coppola on Steel investigations using SANS || rowspan=3 | Breakout rooms available ...
|-
|09:30 - 10:00 || colspan=2 | PLENARY: Talk by Satoshi Koizumi on SANS at the compact neutron source
|-
|10:00 - 10:30 || colspan=2 |Talk by Yi-Qi Yeh/ U-Ser Jeng on Stoichiometric unfolding of bovine serum albumin
|-
|10:30 - 11:00 || colspan=3 | Coffee Break
|-
|11:00 - 12:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : General discussion, wrap-up & actions
|-
|12:00 - 13:00 || colspan=3 | Lunch
|-
|13:30 - 15:30 || colspan=3 | Reactor tour at MLZ / FRM-II
|-
|15:30 || colspan=3 | Bus from MLZ to Airport
|}

canSAS-XI/GISAS

2019-07-08T16:50:13Z

Ajj:

== Discussion session on GISAS ==
Chair : Eva Herzig

<<upload introductory presentation from plenary as PDF and link here >>

== Session Notes ==

== Actions ==

canSAS-XI/Software

2019-07-08T16:49:58Z

Ajj:

== Discussion session on Software ==
Chair : Paul Butler

<<upload introductory presentation from plenary as PDF and link here >>

== Session Notes ==

== Actions ==

cansas-XI/MultipleScattering

2019-07-08T16:49:40Z

Ajj: Created page with "== Discussion session on Multiple Scattering == Chair : Theyencheri Narayanan <<upload introductory presentation from plenary as PDF and link here >> == Session Notes == ..."

== Discussion session on Multiple Scattering ==
Chair : Theyencheri Narayanan

<<upload introductory presentation from plenary as PDF and link here >>

== Session Notes ==

== Actions ==

canSAS-XI/Software

2019-07-08T16:47:57Z

Ajj: Created page with "== Discussion session on Software == Chair : Paul Butler == Session Notes == == Actions =="

== Discussion session on Software ==
Chair : Paul Butler

== Session Notes ==

== Actions ==

canSAS-XI/GISAS

2019-07-08T16:47:27Z

Ajj: /* Discussion session on GISAS */

== Discussion session on GISAS ==
Chair : Eva Herzig

== Session Notes ==

== Actions ==

canSAS-XI/GISAS

2019-07-08T16:47:12Z

Ajj: Created page with "= Discussion session on GISAS = Chair : Eva Herzig == Session Notes == == Actions =="

= Discussion session on GISAS =
Chair : Eva Herzig

== Session Notes ==

== Actions ==

canSAS-XI

2019-07-08T16:46:38Z

Ajj: /* Monday July 8 */

= canSAS-XI Workshop =

The Next free standing canSAS workshop will be held 8 to 10 July 2019 in Freising Germany. Mark your calendars! Practical information is available on the web at:

http://www.fz-juelich.de/jcns/EN/Leistungen/ConferencesAndWorkshops/canSASXI/_node.html

Details will be announced in Traverse City on October 7, 2018 at the [[canSAS-X]] sattellite meeting of SAS2018

__TOC__

== Program ==

=== Monday July 8 ===

{| border='1' width=700px
|-
|width=100px |11:00 - 12:00 || colspan=3 | Registration
|-
|12:00 - 13:00 || colspan=3 | Lunch
|-
|13:00 - 14:30 || colspan=3 | Welcome and Short introduction of each participant
|-
|14:30 - 15:30 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Breakout session introductions : GISAS, Software, & Reduction/Reconstruction - Multiple Scattering
|-
|15:30 - 16:00 || colspan=3 | Coffee Break
|-
|16:00 - 17:30 || width=200px | Breakout : [[canSAS-XI/GISAS|GISAS]] Chair : Eva M Herzig || width=150px | Breakout : [[canSAS-XI/Software|Software]] Chair : Paul Butler || width=250px | Breakout : [[cansas-XI/MultipleScattering|Multiple Scattering]] Chair : Theyencheri Narayanan
|-
|17:30 - 18:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Reporting from each group (5 min) + discussion
|-
|18:00 - 18:30 || colspan=3 | Talk by M. Schwartzkopf on "Tackling high data rates in GISAXS: Current status and future challenges"
|-
|18:30 - 19:30 || colspan=3 | POSTER SESSION on new instrumental developments/ Software/ Sample environment/ etc.
|-
|19:30 || colspan=3 | Dinner

|}

=== Tuesday July 9 ===

{| border='1' width=700px
|-
|width=100px | 09:00 - 10:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Breakout session introductions : Sample Environment, TOF-SANS & Reduction/Reconstruction
|-
|10:00 - 11:30 || width=200px |Breakout : Sample Environment Chair : Katie Weigandt || width=200px | Breakout : TOF-SANS Chairs : Jackson & Sokolova || width=200px | Breakout : Extended Q-range Chair : Wim Bouwman
|-
|11:30 - 12:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Reporting from each group (5 min) + discussion
|-
|12:00 - 13:00 || colspan=3 | Lunch
|-
|13:00 - 14:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Breakout session introductions : Dissemination, Data Formats & Reduction/Reconstruction
|-
|14:00 - 15:30 || width=200px | Breakout : Dissemination Chair : Adrian Rennie || width=150px | Breakout : Data Formats Chair : Tim Snow || width=250px | Breakout : Reduction Reconstruction Chair : Sylvain Prevost
|-
|15:30 - 16:00 || colspan=3 | Coffee Break
|-
|16:00 - 16:30 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Reporting from each group (5 min) + discussion
|-
|16:30 - 17:30 || colspan=3 | POSTER SESSION on new instrumental developments/ Software/ Sample environment/ etc.
|-
|17:30 - 19:00 || colspan=3 | Transfer to and tour of the Weihenstephan Brewery
|-
|19:00 || colspan=3 | Dinner

|}

=== Wednesday July 10 ===

{| border='1' width=700px
|-
|width=100px | 09:00 - 09:30 || colspan=2 | PLENARY: Talk by Roberto Coppola on Steel investigations using SANS || rowspan=3 | Breakout rooms available ...
|-
|09:30 - 10:00 || colspan=2 | PLENARY: Talk by Satoshi Koizumi on SANS at the compact neutron source
|-
|10:00 - 10:30 || colspan=2 |Talk by Yi-Qi Yeh/ U-Ser Jeng on Stoichiometric unfolding of bovine serum albumin
|-
|10:30 - 11:00 || colspan=3 | Coffee Break
|-
|11:00 - 12:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : General discussion, wrap-up & actions
|-
|12:00 - 13:00 || colspan=3 | Lunch
|-
|13:30 - 15:30 || colspan=3 | Reactor tour at MLZ / FRM-II
|-
|15:30 || colspan=3 | Bus from MLZ to Airport
|}

canSAS-XI

2019-07-08T16:43:57Z

Ajj: /* Wednesday July 10 */

= canSAS-XI Workshop =

The Next free standing canSAS workshop will be held 8 to 10 July 2019 in Freising Germany. Mark your calendars! Practical information is available on the web at:

http://www.fz-juelich.de/jcns/EN/Leistungen/ConferencesAndWorkshops/canSASXI/_node.html

Details will be announced in Traverse City on October 7, 2018 at the [[canSAS-X]] sattellite meeting of SAS2018

__TOC__

== Program ==

=== Monday July 8 ===

{| border='1' width=700px
|-
|width=100px |11:00 - 12:00 || colspan=3 | Registration
|-
|12:00 - 13:00 || colspan=3 | Lunch
|-
|13:00 - 14:30 || colspan=3 | Welcome and Short introduction of each participant
|-
|14:30 - 15:30 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Breakout session introductions : GISAS, Software & Reduction/Reconstruction
|-
|15:30 - 16:00 || colspan=3 | Coffee Break
|-
|16:00 - 17:30 || width=200px | Breakout : GISAS Chair : Eva M Herzig || width=150px | Breakout : Software Chair : Paul Butler || width=250px | Breakout : Reduction/Reconstruction Chair : Theyencheri Narayanan
|-
|17:30 - 18:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Reporting from each group (5 min) + discussion
|-
|18:00 - 18:30 || colspan=3 | Talk by M. Schwartzkopf on "Tackling high data rates in GISAXS: Current status and future challenges"
|-
|18:30 - 19:30 || colspan=3 | POSTER SESSION on new instrumental developments/ Software/ Sample environment/ etc.
|-
|19:30 || colspan=3 | Dinner

|}

=== Tuesday July 9 ===

{| border='1' width=700px
|-
|width=100px | 09:00 - 10:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Breakout session introductions : Sample Environment, TOF-SANS & Reduction/Reconstruction
|-
|10:00 - 11:30 || width=200px |Breakout : Sample Environment Chair : Katie Weigandt || width=200px | Breakout : TOF-SANS Chairs : Jackson & Sokolova || width=200px | Breakout : Extended Q-range Chair : Wim Bouwman
|-
|11:30 - 12:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Reporting from each group (5 min) + discussion
|-
|12:00 - 13:00 || colspan=3 | Lunch
|-
|13:00 - 14:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Breakout session introductions : Dissemination, Data Formats & Reduction/Reconstruction
|-
|14:00 - 15:30 || width=200px | Breakout : Dissemination Chair : Adrian Rennie || width=150px | Breakout : Data Formats Chair : Tim Snow || width=250px | Breakout : Reduction Reconstruction Chair : Sylvain Prevost
|-
|15:30 - 16:00 || colspan=3 | Coffee Break
|-
|16:00 - 16:30 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Reporting from each group (5 min) + discussion
|-
|16:30 - 17:30 || colspan=3 | POSTER SESSION on new instrumental developments/ Software/ Sample environment/ etc.
|-
|17:30 - 19:00 || colspan=3 | Transfer to and tour of the Weihenstephan Brewery
|-
|19:00 || colspan=3 | Dinner

|}

=== Wednesday July 10 ===

{| border='1' width=700px
|-
|width=100px | 09:00 - 09:30 || colspan=2 | PLENARY: Talk by Roberto Coppola on Steel investigations using SANS || rowspan=3 | Breakout rooms available ...
|-
|09:30 - 10:00 || colspan=2 | PLENARY: Talk by Satoshi Koizumi on SANS at the compact neutron source
|-
|10:00 - 10:30 || colspan=2 |Talk by Yi-Qi Yeh/ U-Ser Jeng on Stoichiometric unfolding of bovine serum albumin
|-
|10:30 - 11:00 || colspan=3 | Coffee Break
|-
|11:00 - 12:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : General discussion, wrap-up & actions
|-
|12:00 - 13:00 || colspan=3 | Lunch
|-
|13:30 - 15:30 || colspan=3 | Reactor tour at MLZ / FRM-II
|-
|15:30 || colspan=3 | Bus from MLZ to Airport
|}

canSAS-XI

2019-07-08T16:43:00Z

Ajj: /* Tuesday July 9 */

= canSAS-XI Workshop =

The Next free standing canSAS workshop will be held 8 to 10 July 2019 in Freising Germany. Mark your calendars! Practical information is available on the web at:

http://www.fz-juelich.de/jcns/EN/Leistungen/ConferencesAndWorkshops/canSASXI/_node.html

Details will be announced in Traverse City on October 7, 2018 at the [[canSAS-X]] sattellite meeting of SAS2018

__TOC__

== Program ==

=== Monday July 8 ===

{| border='1' width=700px
|-
|width=100px |11:00 - 12:00 || colspan=3 | Registration
|-
|12:00 - 13:00 || colspan=3 | Lunch
|-
|13:00 - 14:30 || colspan=3 | Welcome and Short introduction of each participant
|-
|14:30 - 15:30 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Breakout session introductions : GISAS, Software & Reduction/Reconstruction
|-
|15:30 - 16:00 || colspan=3 | Coffee Break
|-
|16:00 - 17:30 || width=200px | Breakout : GISAS Chair : Eva M Herzig || width=150px | Breakout : Software Chair : Paul Butler || width=250px | Breakout : Reduction/Reconstruction Chair : Theyencheri Narayanan
|-
|17:30 - 18:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Reporting from each group (5 min) + discussion
|-
|18:00 - 18:30 || colspan=3 | Talk by M. Schwartzkopf on "Tackling high data rates in GISAXS: Current status and future challenges"
|-
|18:30 - 19:30 || colspan=3 | POSTER SESSION on new instrumental developments/ Software/ Sample environment/ etc.
|-
|19:30 || colspan=3 | Dinner

|}

=== Tuesday July 9 ===

{| border='1' width=700px
|-
|width=100px | 09:00 - 10:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Breakout session introductions : Sample Environment, TOF-SANS & Reduction/Reconstruction
|-
|10:00 - 11:30 || width=200px |Breakout : Sample Environment Chair : Katie Weigandt || width=200px | Breakout : TOF-SANS Chairs : Jackson & Sokolova || width=200px | Breakout : Extended Q-range Chair : Wim Bouwman
|-
|11:30 - 12:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Reporting from each group (5 min) + discussion
|-
|12:00 - 13:00 || colspan=3 | Lunch
|-
|13:00 - 14:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Breakout session introductions : Dissemination, Data Formats & Reduction/Reconstruction
|-
|14:00 - 15:30 || width=200px | Breakout : Dissemination Chair : Adrian Rennie || width=150px | Breakout : Data Formats Chair : Tim Snow || width=250px | Breakout : Reduction Reconstruction Chair : Sylvain Prevost
|-
|15:30 - 16:00 || colspan=3 | Coffee Break
|-
|16:00 - 16:30 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Reporting from each group (5 min) + discussion
|-
|16:30 - 17:30 || colspan=3 | POSTER SESSION on new instrumental developments/ Software/ Sample environment/ etc.
|-
|17:30 - 19:00 || colspan=3 | Transfer to and tour of the Weihenstephan Brewery
|-
|19:00 || colspan=3 | Dinner

|}

=== Wednesday July 10 ===

{| border='1'
|-
|09:00 - 09:30 || colspan=2 | PLENARY: Talk by Roberto Coppola on Steel investigations using SANS || rowspan=3 | Breakout rooms available ...
|-
|09:30 - 10:00 || colspan=2 | PLENARY: Talk by Satoshi Koizumi on SANS at the compact neutron source
|-
|10:00 - 10:30 || colspan=2 |Talk by Yi-Qi Yeh/ U-Ser Jeng on Stoichiometric unfolding of bovine serum albumin
|-
|10:30 - 11:00 || colspan=3 | Coffee Break
|-
|11:00 - 12:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : General discussion, wrap-up & actions
|-
|12:00 - 13:00 || colspan=3 | Lunch
|-
|13:30 - 15:30 || colspan=3 | Reactor tour at MLZ / FRM-II
|-
|15:30 || Bus from MLZ to Airport
|}

canSAS-XI

2019-07-08T16:40:19Z

Ajj: /* Monday July 8 */

= canSAS-XI Workshop =

The Next free standing canSAS workshop will be held 8 to 10 July 2019 in Freising Germany. Mark your calendars! Practical information is available on the web at:

http://www.fz-juelich.de/jcns/EN/Leistungen/ConferencesAndWorkshops/canSASXI/_node.html

Details will be announced in Traverse City on October 7, 2018 at the [[canSAS-X]] sattellite meeting of SAS2018

__TOC__

== Program ==

=== Monday July 8 ===

{| border='1' width=700px
|-
|width=100px |11:00 - 12:00 || colspan=3 | Registration
|-
|12:00 - 13:00 || colspan=3 | Lunch
|-
|13:00 - 14:30 || colspan=3 | Welcome and Short introduction of each participant
|-
|14:30 - 15:30 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Breakout session introductions : GISAS, Software & Reduction/Reconstruction
|-
|15:30 - 16:00 || colspan=3 | Coffee Break
|-
|16:00 - 17:30 || width=200px | Breakout : GISAS Chair : Eva M Herzig || width=150px | Breakout : Software Chair : Paul Butler || width=250px | Breakout : Reduction/Reconstruction Chair : Theyencheri Narayanan
|-
|17:30 - 18:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Reporting from each group (5 min) + discussion
|-
|18:00 - 18:30 || colspan=3 | Talk by M. Schwartzkopf on "Tackling high data rates in GISAXS: Current status and future challenges"
|-
|18:30 - 19:30 || colspan=3 | POSTER SESSION on new instrumental developments/ Software/ Sample environment/ etc.
|-
|19:30 || colspan=3 | Dinner

|}

=== Tuesday July 9 ===

{| border='1' width=600px
|-
|width=100px | 09:00 - 10:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Breakout session introductions : Sample Environment, TOF-SANS & Reduction/Reconstruction
|-
|10:00 - 11:30 ||
Breakout : Sample Environment 
Chair : Katie Weigandt
||
Breakout : TOF-SANS 
Chair : Andrew Jackson / Anna Sokolova
||
Breakout : Extended Q-range 
Chair : Wim Bouwman
|-
|11:30 - 12:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Reporting from each group (5 min) + discussion
|-
|12:00 - 13:00 || colspan=3 | Lunch
|-
|13:00 - 14:00 || Plenary : Breakout session introductions : Dissemination, Data Formats & Reduction/Reconstruction
|-
|14:00 - 15:30 ||
Breakout : Dissemination 
Chair : Adrian Rennie
||
Breakout : Data Formats 
Chair : Tim Snow
||
Breakout : Reduction Reconstruction 
Chair : Sylvain Prevost
|-
|15:30 - 16:00 || colspan=3 | Coffee Break
|-
|16:00 - 16:30 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Reporting from each group (5 min) + discussion
|-
|16:30 - 17:30 || colspan=3 | POSTER SESSION on new instrumental developments/ Software/ Sample environment/ etc.
|-
|17:30 - 19:00 || colspan=3 | Transfer to and tour of the Weihenstephan Brewery
|-
|19:00 || colspan=3 | Dinner

|}

=== Wednesday July 10 ===

{| border='1'
|-
|09:00 - 09:30 || colspan=2 | PLENARY: Talk by Roberto Coppola on Steel investigations using SANS || rowspan=3 | Breakout rooms available ...
|-
|09:30 - 10:00 || colspan=2 | PLENARY: Talk by Satoshi Koizumi on SANS at the compact neutron source
|-
|10:00 - 10:30 || colspan=2 |Talk by Yi-Qi Yeh/ U-Ser Jeng on Stoichiometric unfolding of bovine serum albumin
|-
|10:30 - 11:00 || colspan=3 | Coffee Break
|-
|11:00 - 12:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : General discussion, wrap-up & actions
|-
|12:00 - 13:00 || colspan=3 | Lunch
|-
|13:30 - 15:30 || colspan=3 | Reactor tour at MLZ / FRM-II
|-
|15:30 || Bus from MLZ to Airport
|}

canSAS-XI

2019-07-08T16:37:02Z

Ajj: /* Tuesday July 9 */

= canSAS-XI Workshop =

The Next free standing canSAS workshop will be held 8 to 10 July 2019 in Freising Germany. Mark your calendars! Practical information is available on the web at:

http://www.fz-juelich.de/jcns/EN/Leistungen/ConferencesAndWorkshops/canSASXI/_node.html

Details will be announced in Traverse City on October 7, 2018 at the [[canSAS-X]] sattellite meeting of SAS2018

__TOC__

== Program ==

=== Monday July 8 ===

{| border='1' width=600px
|-
|width=100px |11:00 - 12:00 || colspan=3 | Registration
|-
|12:00 - 13:00 || colspan=3 | Lunch
|-
|13:00 - 14:30 || colspan=3 | Welcome and Short introduction of each participant
|-
|14:30 - 15:30 || Plenary : Breakout session introductions : GISAS, Software & Reduction/Reconstruction
|-
|15:30 - 16:00 || colspan=3 | Coffee Break
|-
|16:00 - 17:30 ||
Breakout : GISAS 
Chair : Eva M Herzig
||
Breakout : Software 
Chair : Paul Butler
||
Breakout : Reduction/Reconstruction 
Chair : Theyencheri Narayanan
|-
|17:30 - 18:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Reporting from each group (5 min) + discussion
|-
|18:00 - 18:30 || colspan=3 | Talk by M. Schwartzkopf on "Tackling high data rates in GISAXS: Current status and future challenges"
|-
|18:30 - 19:30 || colspan=3 | POSTER SESSION on new instrumental developments/ Software/ Sample environment/ etc.
|-
|19:30 || colspan=3 | Dinner

|}

=== Tuesday July 9 ===

{| border='1' width=600px
|-
|width=100px | 09:00 - 10:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Breakout session introductions : Sample Environment, TOF-SANS & Reduction/Reconstruction
|-
|10:00 - 11:30 ||
Breakout : Sample Environment 
Chair : Katie Weigandt
||
Breakout : TOF-SANS 
Chair : Andrew Jackson / Anna Sokolova
||
Breakout : Extended Q-range 
Chair : Wim Bouwman
|-
|11:30 - 12:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Reporting from each group (5 min) + discussion
|-
|12:00 - 13:00 || colspan=3 | Lunch
|-
|13:00 - 14:00 || Plenary : Breakout session introductions : Dissemination, Data Formats & Reduction/Reconstruction
|-
|14:00 - 15:30 ||
Breakout : Dissemination 
Chair : Adrian Rennie
||
Breakout : Data Formats 
Chair : Tim Snow
||
Breakout : Reduction Reconstruction 
Chair : Sylvain Prevost
|-
|15:30 - 16:00 || colspan=3 | Coffee Break
|-
|16:00 - 16:30 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Reporting from each group (5 min) + discussion
|-
|16:30 - 17:30 || colspan=3 | POSTER SESSION on new instrumental developments/ Software/ Sample environment/ etc.
|-
|17:30 - 19:00 || colspan=3 | Transfer to and tour of the Weihenstephan Brewery
|-
|19:00 || colspan=3 | Dinner

|}

=== Wednesday July 10 ===

{| border='1'
|-
|09:00 - 09:30 || colspan=2 | PLENARY: Talk by Roberto Coppola on Steel investigations using SANS || rowspan=3 | Breakout rooms available ...
|-
|09:30 - 10:00 || colspan=2 | PLENARY: Talk by Satoshi Koizumi on SANS at the compact neutron source
|-
|10:00 - 10:30 || colspan=2 |Talk by Yi-Qi Yeh/ U-Ser Jeng on Stoichiometric unfolding of bovine serum albumin
|-
|10:30 - 11:00 || colspan=3 | Coffee Break
|-
|11:00 - 12:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : General discussion, wrap-up & actions
|-
|12:00 - 13:00 || colspan=3 | Lunch
|-
|13:30 - 15:30 || colspan=3 | Reactor tour at MLZ / FRM-II
|-
|15:30 || Bus from MLZ to Airport
|}

canSAS-XI

2019-07-08T16:36:15Z

Ajj: /* Monday July 8 */

= canSAS-XI Workshop =

The Next free standing canSAS workshop will be held 8 to 10 July 2019 in Freising Germany. Mark your calendars! Practical information is available on the web at:

http://www.fz-juelich.de/jcns/EN/Leistungen/ConferencesAndWorkshops/canSASXI/_node.html

Details will be announced in Traverse City on October 7, 2018 at the [[canSAS-X]] sattellite meeting of SAS2018

__TOC__

== Program ==

=== Monday July 8 ===

{| border='1' width=600px
|-
|width=100px |11:00 - 12:00 || colspan=3 | Registration
|-
|12:00 - 13:00 || colspan=3 | Lunch
|-
|13:00 - 14:30 || colspan=3 | Welcome and Short introduction of each participant
|-
|14:30 - 15:30 || Plenary : Breakout session introductions : GISAS, Software & Reduction/Reconstruction
|-
|15:30 - 16:00 || colspan=3 | Coffee Break
|-
|16:00 - 17:30 ||
Breakout : GISAS 
Chair : Eva M Herzig
||
Breakout : Software 
Chair : Paul Butler
||
Breakout : Reduction/Reconstruction 
Chair : Theyencheri Narayanan
|-
|17:30 - 18:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Reporting from each group (5 min) + discussion
|-
|18:00 - 18:30 || colspan=3 | Talk by M. Schwartzkopf on "Tackling high data rates in GISAXS: Current status and future challenges"
|-
|18:30 - 19:30 || colspan=3 | POSTER SESSION on new instrumental developments/ Software/ Sample environment/ etc.
|-
|19:30 || colspan=3 | Dinner

|}

=== Tuesday July 9 ===

{| border='1'
|-
|09:00 - 10:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Breakout session introductions : Sample Environment, TOF-SANS & Reduction/Reconstruction
|-
|10:00 - 11:30 ||
Breakout : Sample Environment
Chair : Katie Weigandt
||
Breakout : TOF-SANS
Chair : Andrew Jackson / Anna Sokolova
||
Breakout : Extended Q-range
Chair : Wim Bouwman
|-
|11:30 - 12:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Reporting from each group (5 min) + discussion
|-
|12:00 - 13:00 || colspan=3 | Lunch
|-
|13:00 - 14:00 || Plenary : Breakout session introductions : Dissemination, Data Formats & Reduction/Reconstruction
|-
|14:00 - 15:30 ||
Breakout : Dissemination
Chair : Adrian Rennie
||
Breakout : Data Formats
Chair : Tim Snow
||
Breakout : Reduction Reconstruction
Chair : Sylvain Prevost
|-
|15:30 - 16:00 || colspan=3 | Coffee Break
|-
|16:00 - 16:30 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Reporting from each group (5 min) + discussion
|-
|16:30 - 17:30 || colspan=3 | POSTER SESSION on new instrumental developments/ Software/ Sample environment/ etc.
|-
|17:30 - 19:00 || colspan=3 | Transfer to and tour of the Weihenstephan Brewery
|-
|19:00 || colspan=3 | Dinner

|}

=== Wednesday July 10 ===

{| border='1'
|-
|09:00 - 09:30 || colspan=2 | PLENARY: Talk by Roberto Coppola on Steel investigations using SANS || rowspan=3 | Breakout rooms available ...
|-
|09:30 - 10:00 || colspan=2 | PLENARY: Talk by Satoshi Koizumi on SANS at the compact neutron source
|-
|10:00 - 10:30 || colspan=2 |Talk by Yi-Qi Yeh/ U-Ser Jeng on Stoichiometric unfolding of bovine serum albumin
|-
|10:30 - 11:00 || colspan=3 | Coffee Break
|-
|11:00 - 12:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : General discussion, wrap-up & actions
|-
|12:00 - 13:00 || colspan=3 | Lunch
|-
|13:30 - 15:30 || colspan=3 | Reactor tour at MLZ / FRM-II
|-
|15:30 || Bus from MLZ to Airport
|}

canSAS-XI

2019-07-08T16:33:28Z

Ajj:

= canSAS-XI Workshop =

The Next free standing canSAS workshop will be held 8 to 10 July 2019 in Freising Germany. Mark your calendars! Practical information is available on the web at:

http://www.fz-juelich.de/jcns/EN/Leistungen/ConferencesAndWorkshops/canSASXI/_node.html

Details will be announced in Traverse City on October 7, 2018 at the [[canSAS-X]] sattellite meeting of SAS2018

__TOC__

== Program ==

=== Monday July 8 ===

{| border='1'
|-
|11:00 - 12:00 || colspan=3 | Registration
|-
|12:00 - 13:00 || colspan=3 | Lunch
|-
|13:00 - 14:30 || colspan=3 | Welcome and Short introduction of each participant
|-
|14:30 - 15:30 || Plenary : Breakout session introductions : GISAS, Software & Reduction/Reconstruction
|-
|15:30 - 16:00 || colspan=3 | Coffee Break
|-
|16:00 - 17:30 ||
Breakout : GISAS
Chair : Eva M Herzig
||
Breakout : Software
Chair : Paul Butler
||
Breakout : Reduction/Reconstruction
Chair : Theyencheri Narayanan
|-
|17:30 - 18:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Reporting from each group (5 min) + discussion
|-
|18:00 - 18:30 || colspan=3 | Talk by M. Schwartzkopf on "Tackling high data rates in GISAXS: Current status and future challenges"
|-
|18:30 - 19:30 || colspan=3 | POSTER SESSION on new instrumental developments/ Software/ Sample environment/ etc.
|-
|19:30 || colspan=3 | Dinner

|}

=== Tuesday July 9 ===

{| border='1'
|-
|09:00 - 10:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Breakout session introductions : Sample Environment, TOF-SANS & Reduction/Reconstruction
|-
|10:00 - 11:30 ||
Breakout : Sample Environment
Chair : Katie Weigandt
||
Breakout : TOF-SANS
Chair : Andrew Jackson / Anna Sokolova
||
Breakout : Extended Q-range
Chair : Wim Bouwman
|-
|11:30 - 12:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Reporting from each group (5 min) + discussion
|-
|12:00 - 13:00 || colspan=3 | Lunch
|-
|13:00 - 14:00 || Plenary : Breakout session introductions : Dissemination, Data Formats & Reduction/Reconstruction
|-
|14:00 - 15:30 ||
Breakout : Dissemination
Chair : Adrian Rennie
||
Breakout : Data Formats
Chair : Tim Snow
||
Breakout : Reduction Reconstruction
Chair : Sylvain Prevost
|-
|15:30 - 16:00 || colspan=3 | Coffee Break
|-
|16:00 - 16:30 || colspan=3 | Plenary : Reporting from each group (5 min) + discussion
|-
|16:30 - 17:30 || colspan=3 | POSTER SESSION on new instrumental developments/ Software/ Sample environment/ etc.
|-
|17:30 - 19:00 || colspan=3 | Transfer to and tour of the Weihenstephan Brewery
|-
|19:00 || colspan=3 | Dinner

|}

=== Wednesday July 10 ===

{| border='1'
|-
|09:00 - 09:30 || colspan=2 | PLENARY: Talk by Roberto Coppola on Steel investigations using SANS || rowspan=3 | Breakout rooms available ...
|-
|09:30 - 10:00 || colspan=2 | PLENARY: Talk by Satoshi Koizumi on SANS at the compact neutron source
|-
|10:00 - 10:30 || colspan=2 |Talk by Yi-Qi Yeh/ U-Ser Jeng on Stoichiometric unfolding of bovine serum albumin
|-
|10:30 - 11:00 || colspan=3 | Coffee Break
|-
|11:00 - 12:00 || colspan=3 | Plenary : General discussion, wrap-up & actions
|-
|12:00 - 13:00 || colspan=3 | Lunch
|-
|13:30 - 15:30 || colspan=3 | Reactor tour at MLZ / FRM-II
|-
|15:30 || Bus from MLZ to Airport
|}

canSAS

2017-06-08T23:30:18Z

Ajj:

==News==

The [[canSAS-IX | canSAS-IX]] workshop was held in Northern California on June 5-7 2017 hosted jointly by [http://www-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu/ SSRL] and [https://als.lbl.gov/ ALS].

The [[NXcanSAS]] multi-dimensional (''nD'') standard was released 2017-01-17.

The [[canSAS-VIII | canSAS VIII meeting]] was held in Japan on April 14-16, 2015.

The outcomes of recent canSAS work was presented to the community at a special session on 20 November at the SAS-2012 conference in Sydney, Australia (18 to 23 November 2012). Presentations from this session and other canSAS work are reported on a separate page: [[canSAS_at_the_SAS-2012_Conference]].

There has been a working meeting in Uppsala, Sweden from 28 to 31 July 2012 : [[canSAS-2012 | canSAS 2012]].

The canSAS web site has moved to a new domain: [[http://www.cansas.org www.cansas.org]] - Welcome to our new home! If you spot any broken links or strange behavior, email Andrew (andrew dot jackson at esss dot se).

== Working Groups ==

Working groups are formed as needed to address the various matters of interest to the canSAS.

=== Current Working Groups ===
<categorytree mode=pages hideroot=on>Working Groups</categorytree>

=== Previous Working Groups ===
<categorytree mode=pages hideroot=on>Previous Working Groups</categorytree>

Data Formats Working Group

2017-06-07T20:49:07Z

Ajj:

canSAS

2016-10-05T18:23:27Z

Ajj:

==Announcement==

The next canSAS workshop will be held in Northern California on June 5-7 2017 hosted jointly by SSRL and ALS.

==News==

The [[canSAS-VIII | canSAS VIII meeting]] was held in Japan on April 14-16, 2015.

The outcomes of recent canSAS work was presented to the community at a special session on 20 November at the SAS-2012 conference in Sydney, Australia (18 to 23 November 2012). Presentations from this session and other canSAS work are reported on a separate page: [[canSAS_at_the_SAS-2012_Conference]].

There has been a working meeting in Uppsala, Sweden from 28 to 31 July 2012 : [[canSAS-2012 | canSAS 2012]].

The canSAS web site has moved to a new domain: [[http://www.cansas.org www.cansas.org]] - Welcome to our new home! If you spot any broken links or strange behavior, email Andrew (andrew dot jackson at esss dot se).

== Working Groups ==

Working groups are formed as needed to address the various matters of interest to the canSAS.

=== Current Working Groups ===
<categorytree mode=pages hideroot=on>Working Groups</categorytree>

=== Previous Working Groups ===
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canSAS

2016-10-05T18:22:29Z

Ajj:

==Announcement==

The next canSAS workshop will be held in Southern CA on June 5-7 2017 hosted jointly by SSRL and ALS.

==News==

The [[canSAS-VIII | canSAS VIII meeting]] was held in Japan on April 14-16, 2015.

The outcomes of recent canSAS work was presented to the community at a special session on 20 November at the SAS-2012 conference in Sydney, Australia (18 to 23 November 2012). Presentations from this session and other canSAS work are reported on a separate page: [[canSAS_at_the_SAS-2012_Conference]].

There has been a working meeting in Uppsala, Sweden from 28 to 31 July 2012 : [[canSAS-2012 | canSAS 2012]].

The canSAS web site has moved to a new domain: [[http://www.cansas.org www.cansas.org]] - Welcome to our new home! If you spot any broken links or strange behavior, email Andrew (andrew dot jackson at esss dot se).

== Working Groups ==

Working groups are formed as needed to address the various matters of interest to the canSAS.

=== Current Working Groups ===
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=== Previous Working Groups ===
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canSAS

2016-10-05T18:13:19Z

Ajj:

==Announcement==

The next canSAS workshop will be held in Southern CA on June 5-7 2017 hosted jointly by SSRL and ALS.

==News==

The [[canSAS-VIII | canSAS VIII meeting]] was held in Japan on April 14-16, 2015.

The outcomes of recent canSAS work was presented to the community at a special session on 20 November at the SAS-2012 conference in Sydney, Australia (18 to 23 November 2012). Presentations from this session and other canSAS work are reported on a separate page: [[canSAS_at_the_SAS-2012_Conference]].

There has been a working meeting in Uppsala, Sweden from 28 to 31 July 2012 : [[canSAS-2012 | canSAS 2012]].

The canSAS web site has moved to a new domain: [[http://www.cansas.org www.cansas.org]] - Welcome to our new home! If you spot any broken links or strange behavior, email Andrew (andrew dot jackson at esss dot se).

== Working Groups ==

Working groups are formed as required to address the various matters of interest to the canSAS.

=== Current Working Groups ===
<categorytree mode=pages hideroot=on>Working Groups</categorytree>

=== Previous Working Groups ===
<categorytree mode=pages hideroot=on>Previous Working Groups</categorytree>

Grazing Incidence Working Group

2015-08-28T10:42:51Z

Ajj: Creating GIWG page

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