ExperimentalTech - Revision history

Butler at 17:29, 14 June 2017

2017-06-14T17:29:57Z

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	* Co-operation between facilities would be helpful in terms of getting better support from suppliers for widely used ancillary and sample environment equipment.		* Co-operation between facilities would be helpful in terms of getting better support from suppliers for widely used ancillary and sample environment equipment.
	- This minimizes duplication of efforts,		** This minimizes duplication of efforts,
	- Makes it easier to integrate new unique pieces of sample environment,		** Makes it easier to integrate new unique pieces of sample environment,
	- Equipment suppliers would benefit from the better exploitation and demonstration of their products to the wide community of users at facilities.		** Equipment suppliers would benefit from the better exploitation and demonstration of their products to the wide community of users at facilities.

	* It was mentioned that SAS community attempts to initiate cross-facility standards for sample environment should check with the International Society for Sample Environment (ISSE) as to what else is be being done.		* It was mentioned that SAS community attempts to initiate cross-facility standards for sample environment should check with the International Society for Sample Environment (ISSE) as to what else is be being done.
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	* Making more information readily accessible is helpful particularly to share information about current technique development,		* Making more information readily accessible is helpful particularly to share information about current technique development,
	- There is a need for tables of definitions of acronyms.		** There is a need for tables of definitions of acronyms.

	* Users of beam lines benefit from provision of manuals etc. These need to be prepared as both 'quick guides' for measurement protocols and for more extensive reference documents. Systematic logs of changes are helpful when returning for further experiments. Shared examples of useful formats and of good practice would be helpful and could be made available on the web.		* Users of beam lines benefit from provision of manuals etc. These need to be prepared as both 'quick guides' for measurement protocols and for more extensive reference documents. Systematic logs of changes are helpful when returning for further experiments. Shared examples of useful formats and of good practice would be helpful and could be made available on the web.

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2017-06-09T07:48:09Z

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	== Summary ==		== Summary ==

	* Co-operation between facilities would be helpful in terms of getting better support from suppliers for widely used ancillary and sample environment equipment.		* Co-operation between facilities would be helpful in terms of getting better support from suppliers for widely used ancillary and sample environment equipment.
	- This minimizes duplication of efforts,		- This minimizes duplication of efforts,
	- Makes it easier to integrate new unique pieces of sample environment.		- Makes it easier to integrate new unique pieces of sample environment,
			- Equipment suppliers would benefit from the better exploitation and demonstration of their products to the wide community of users at facilities.

	* It was mentioned that SAS community attempts to initiate cross-facility standards for sample environment should check with the International Society for Sample Environment (ISSE) as to what else is be being done.		* It was mentioned that SAS community attempts to initiate cross-facility standards for sample environment should check with the International Society for Sample Environment (ISSE) as to what else is be being done.
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	* It was noted that data formats need to be flexible and extensible to allow for the fact that new techniques and new ample environment equipment often generates new parameters, data and metadata that need to be recorded in data files and that some must feed into the final data reduced data files.		* It was noted that data formats need to be flexible and extensible to allow for the fact that new techniques and new ample environment equipment often generates new parameters, data and metadata that need to be recorded in data files and that some must feed into the final data reduced data files.

	Making more information readily accessible ~~such as~~ current technique development, acronyms,beam logs and ~~manuals etc~~.		* Making more information readily accessible is helpful particularly to share information about current technique development,
			- There is a need for tables of definitions of acronyms.

			* Users of beam lines benefit from provision of manuals etc. These need to be prepared as both 'quick guides' for measurement protocols and for more extensive reference documents. Systematic logs of changes are helpful when returning for further experiments. Shared examples of useful formats and of good practice would be helpful and could be made available on the web.

	* Emerging and new techniques require new reference materials or others ways of validating results. The fields of grazing incidence scattering and soft X-ray methods were identified as needing materials that should be addressed in future round-robin studies by the Reproducibility and Reliability working group.		* Emerging and new techniques require new reference materials or others ways of validating results. The fields of grazing incidence scattering and soft X-ray methods were identified as needing materials that should be addressed in future round-robin studies by the Reproducibility and Reliability working group.
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	* Means of reducing and analyzing the data that comes from new measurements can be a bottleneck that would benefit from appropriate standard data formats as well as shared software.		* Means of reducing and analyzing the data that comes from new measurements can be a bottleneck that would benefit from appropriate standard data formats as well as shared software.

	~~Finally the~~ need for extensive physical access to facilities was noted.		* The need for extensive physical access to facilities was noted, particularly for new experimental techniques.

AdrianRennie: /* Summary */

2017-06-09T07:38:45Z

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	Making more information readily accessible such as current technique development, acronyms,beam logs and manuals etc.		Making more information readily accessible such as current technique development, acronyms,beam logs and manuals etc.

	~~The particular need for~~ reference materials or others ways of validating results ~~from emerging techniques was brought up~~. ~~Also~~ the ~~fact that means~~ of reducing and analyzing the data that comes ~~out of such~~ new measurements can be a ~~real~~ bottleneck.		* Emerging and new techniques require new reference materials or others ways of validating results. The fields of grazing incidence scattering and soft X-ray methods were identified as needing materials that should be addressed in future round-robin studies by the Reproducibility and Reliability working group.

			* Means of reducing and analyzing the data that comes from new measurements can be a bottleneck that would benefit from appropriate standard data formats as well as shared software.

	Finally the need for extensive physical access to facilities was noted.		Finally the need for extensive physical access to facilities was noted.

AdrianRennie: /* Summary */

2017-06-09T07:31:30Z

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	- Makes it easier to integrate new unique pieces of sample environment.		- Makes it easier to integrate new unique pieces of sample environment.

	* It was mentioned that SAS community attempts to initiate cross-facility standards for sample environment should check with the ISSE as to what else ~~might~~ be being done ~~on that front~~.		* It was mentioned that SAS community attempts to initiate cross-facility standards for sample environment should check with the International Society for Sample Environment (ISSE) as to what else is be being done.

	~~One item flagged~~ that ~~relates back to~~ data formats and the fact that new SE often generates new parameters that ~~one would want~~ to feed into the final data ~~file collected~~.		* It was noted that data formats need to be flexible and extensible to allow for the fact that new techniques and new ample environment equipment often generates new parameters, data and metadata that need to be recorded in data files and that some must feed into the final data reduced data files.

	Making more information readily accessible such as current technique development, acronyms,beam logs and manuals etc.		Making more information readily accessible such as current technique development, acronyms,beam logs and manuals etc.

AdrianRennie: /* Summary */

2017-06-09T07:27:17Z

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	== Summary ==		== Summary ==
	facility cooperation would be helpful in terms of getting better support from suppliers, minimizing duplication of efforts, as well as making it easier for users to integrate new unique pieces of sample environment.

	~~In that vein~~ it was mentioned that ~~any~~ attempts to ~~start driving a~~ cross facility standards for SE should check with the ISSE as to what else might be being done on that front.		* Co-operation between facilities would be helpful in terms of getting better support from suppliers for widely used ancillary and sample environment equipment.
			- This minimizes duplication of efforts,
			- Makes it easier to integrate new unique pieces of sample environment.

			* It was mentioned that SAS community attempts to initiate cross-facility standards for sample environment should check with the ISSE as to what else might be being done on that front.

	One item flagged that relates back to data formats and the fact that new SE often generates new parameters that one would want to feed into the final data file collected.		One item flagged that relates back to data formats and the fact that new SE often generates new parameters that one would want to feed into the final data file collected.

AdrianRennie: /* Summary */

2017-06-09T07:22:52Z

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	== Summary ==		== Summary ==
	facility cooperation would be helpful in terms of getting better support from suppliers, minimizing duplication of efforts, as well as making it easier for users to integrate new unique pieces of sample environment. In that vein it was mentioned that any attempts to start driving a cross facility standards for SE should check with the ISSE as to what else might be being done on that front. One item flagged that relates back to data formats and the fact that new SE often generates new parameters that one would want to feed into the final data file collected. Making more information readily accessible such as current technique development, acronyms,beam logs and manuals etc. The particular need for reference materials or others ways of validating results from emerging techniques was brought up. Also the fact that means of reducing and analyzing the data that comes out of such new measurements can be a real bottleneck. Finally the need for extensive physical access to facilities was noted.		facility cooperation would be helpful in terms of getting better support from suppliers, minimizing duplication of efforts, as well as making it easier for users to integrate new unique pieces of sample environment.

			In that vein it was mentioned that any attempts to start driving a cross facility standards for SE should check with the ISSE as to what else might be being done on that front.

			One item flagged that relates back to data formats and the fact that new SE often generates new parameters that one would want to feed into the final data file collected.

			Making more information readily accessible such as current technique development, acronyms,beam logs and manuals etc.

			The particular need for reference materials or others ways of validating results from emerging techniques was brought up. Also the fact that means of reducing and analyzing the data that comes out of such new measurements can be a real bottleneck.

			Finally the need for extensive physical access to facilities was noted.

Butler at 23:41, 8 June 2017

2017-06-08T23:41:19Z

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	* [[ExpTechGroupC \| Group C]]		* [[ExpTechGroupC \| Group C]]
	* [[ExpTechGroupD \| Group D]]		* [[ExpTechGroupD \| Group D]]

			== Summary ==
			facility cooperation would be helpful in terms of getting better support from suppliers, minimizing duplication of efforts, as well as making it easier for users to integrate new unique pieces of sample environment. In that vein it was mentioned that any attempts to start driving a cross facility standards for SE should check with the ISSE as to what else might be being done on that front. One item flagged that relates back to data formats and the fact that new SE often generates new parameters that one would want to feed into the final data file collected. Making more information readily accessible such as current technique development, acronyms,beam logs and manuals etc. The particular need for reference materials or others ways of validating results from emerging techniques was brought up. Also the fact that means of reducing and analyzing the data that comes out of such new measurements can be a real bottleneck. Finally the need for extensive physical access to facilities was noted.

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2017-06-06T02:15:05Z

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=== Notes from Breakouts ===

* [[ExpTechGroupA | Group A]]
* [[ExpTechGroupB | Group B]]
* [[ExpTechGroupC | Group C]]
* [[ExpTechGroupD | Group D]]