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	#* From canSAS VI		#* From canSAS VI
	#** SAS Portal		#** SAS Portal
	#***Paul has investigated finding a student and has identified funds.		#***Paul has investigated finding a student to work on portal and has identified funds.
	#** 1D and 2D data formats		#** 1D and 2D data formats
	#***Pete - Nexus code camp has lead to a SAS format definition that he will post the URL to so we can review it and comment.		#***Pete - Nexus code camp has lead to a SAS format definition that he will post the URL to so we can review it and comment.
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	#*** CF suggested that ARR goes to visit new SAS beamline at ESRF during his forthcoming visit.		#*** CF suggested that ARR goes to visit new SAS beamline at ESRF during his forthcoming visit.
	#** Standards - Extension of mailing list archives		#** Standards - Extension of mailing list archives
			#*** ARR - This still needs to be done so as to include discussion on round-robin etc.
	#** IGOR developer's progress?		#** IGOR developer's progress?
	#*** AJJ Talked with Jan Ilavsky after Oxford canSAS-VI.		#*** AJJ Talked with Jan Ilavsky after Oxford canSAS-VI.

AdrianRennie at 07:46, 21 November 2009

2009-11-21T07:46:36Z

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	==Present==		==Present==
	*Adrian Rennie		*Adrian Rennie (ARR)
	*Rex Hjelm		*Rex Hjelm (RPH)
	*Daniel Clemens		*Daniel Clemens (DC)
	*Elliot Gilbert		*Elliot Gilbert (EPG)
	*Andrew Jackson		*Andrew Jackson (AJJ)
	*Paul Butler		*Paul Butler (PDB)
	*Nick Terrill		*Nick Terrill (NT)
	*Pete Jemian		*Pete Jemian (PRJ)
	*Ken Littrell		*Ken Littrell (KL)
	*Steve King		*Steve King (SMK)
	*Young-Soo Han		*Young-Soo Han (Y-SH)
	*Claudio Ferrero		*Claudio Ferrero (CF)
	*Mitsuhiro Shibayama		*Mitsuhiro Shibayama (MS)

	==Minutes==		==Minutes==

Butler at 12:48, 19 November 2009

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	#** Is there a need for a GISAS working group?		#** Is there a need for a GISAS working group?
	#*** Continue to hold on this. AR - put high on agenda for next discussion. Should think about we should involve the reflectometry community.		#*** Continue to hold on this. AR - put high on agenda for next discussion. Should think about we should involve the reflectometry community.
			#*** ACTION: Mitsu Shibayama will contact expert in Korea about interest in 2D formats
	#* From last meeting		#* From last meeting
	~~#* ACTION: Mitsu Shibayama will contact expert in Korea about interest in 2D formats~~
	#** World SANS directory (SAXS?)		#** World SANS directory (SAXS?)
	#*** AR prodded Ralf and it was updated. AR - people need to send Ralf info. ACTION: NIST and ISIS will update.		#*** AR prodded Ralf and it was updated. AR - people need to send Ralf info. ACTION: NIST and ISIS will update.
	#*** http://www.ill.eu/instruments-support/instruments-groups/groups/lss/more/world-directory-of-sans-instruments/		#*** http://www.ill.eu/instruments-support/instruments-groups/groups/lss/more/world-directory-of-sans-instruments/
	#*** AR - PRJ was going to look at directory of SAXS. PRJ is going to build a web page with form for people to fill out. Essential PRJ is on it.		#*** AR - PRJ was going to look at directory of SAXS. PRJ is going to build a web page with form for people to fill out. Essential PRJ is on it. Will await further report at nexgt call.
	#** Anybody besides Bruker come to canSAS session?		#** Anybody besides Bruker come to canSAS session?
	#** Long pulse spallation source project update if any?		#** Long pulse spallation source project update if any?

Butler at 12:46, 19 November 2009

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	#*** Continue to hold on this. AR - put high on agenda for next discussion. Should think about we should involve the reflectometry community.		#*** Continue to hold on this. AR - put high on agenda for next discussion. Should think about we should involve the reflectometry community.
	#* From last meeting		#* From last meeting
			#* ACTION: Mitsu Shibayama will contact expert in Korea about interest in 2D formats
	#** World SANS directory (SAXS?)		#** World SANS directory (SAXS?)
	#*** AR prodded Ralf and it was updated. AR - people need to send Ralf info. ACTION: NIST and ISIS will update.		#*** AR prodded Ralf and it was updated. AR - people need to send Ralf info. ACTION: NIST and ISIS will update.
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	#** Anybody besides Bruker come to canSAS session?		#** Anybody besides Bruker come to canSAS session?
	#** Long pulse spallation source project update if any?		#** Long pulse spallation source project update if any?
	#*** KL will ~~let people know about~~ report from Rome meeting.		#*** ACTION: KL will send report (or link thereto) from Rome meeting as soon as it becomes available.
	#* Any other working group etc update?		#* Any other working group etc update?
	# Discussion regarding next canSAS meeting in 18 months and in Sydney (see notes from [[canSAS-VI]])		# Discussion regarding next canSAS meeting in 18 months and in Sydney (see notes from [[canSAS-VI]])
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	#** BESSY2 and HMI combined center do it too.		#** BESSY2 and HMI combined center do it too.
	#** ISIS/Diamond? SK - issues because Diamond is a separate entity. NT - need to discuss offline :)		#** ISIS/Diamond? SK - issues because Diamond is a separate entity. NT - need to discuss offline :)
			#* Next conference call should be in late January, after the meeting at the ESRF.

Butler at 05:04, 19 November 2009

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	#** Who convene? Facilities? Location? Should we include GI and Refl?		#** Who convene? Facilities? Location? Should we include GI and Refl?
	# Discussion on including other facility representation		# Discussion on including other facility representation
	#* SSRL / PSI / AU Synch.		#* SSRL / PSI / AU Synch. ACTION: call participants to email Paul Butler with suggestions of SAS facility people who might be interested and should be invited to participate. Paul Butler will try then to make contacts.
	# Discussion of portal issues and possible repository of SAS information		# Discussion of portal issues and possible repository of SAS information
	#* e.g. data for windows and sample environments (see notes from [[canSAS-VI]])		#* e.g. data for windows and sample environments (see notes from [[canSAS-VI]])

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	#** ILL/ESRF can now do rolling proposals for time on neutrons and x-rays. Initiative based around EMBL/ESRF/ILL - structural biology. AR - noted that it is only for the biology programs. Any plans to broaden it? CF - in his mind yet, but nothing officially discussed. See if it works with biology and then makes sense to extend. CF will bring it up at next PSB/SAS partnership.		#** ILL/ESRF can now do rolling proposals for time on neutrons and x-rays. Initiative based around EMBL/ESRF/ILL - structural biology. AR - noted that it is only for the biology programs. Any plans to broaden it? CF - in his mind yet, but nothing officially discussed. See if it works with biology and then makes sense to extend. CF will bring it up at next PSB/SAS partnership.
	#** BESSY2 and HMI combined center do it too.		#** BESSY2 and HMI combined center do it too.
	#**		#** ISIS/Diamond? SK - issues because Diamond is a separate entity. NT - need to discuss offline :)

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	#* SANS/SAXS collaboration		#* SANS/SAXS collaboration
	#** ILL/ESRF can now do rolling proposals for time on neutrons and x-rays. Initiative based around EMBL/ESRF/ILL - structural biology. AR - noted that it is only for the biology programs. Any plans to broaden it? CF - in his mind yet, but nothing officially discussed. See if it works with biology and then makes sense to extend. CF will bring it up at next PSB/SAS partnership.		#** ILL/ESRF can now do rolling proposals for time on neutrons and x-rays. Initiative based around EMBL/ESRF/ILL - structural biology. AR - noted that it is only for the biology programs. Any plans to broaden it? CF - in his mind yet, but nothing officially discussed. See if it works with biology and then makes sense to extend. CF will bring it up at next PSB/SAS partnership.
	#** BESSY2 and ~~HZB~~ combined center do it too.		#** BESSY2 and HMI combined center do it too.
	#**		#**

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	#* SANS/SAXS collaboration		#* SANS/SAXS collaboration
	#** ILL/ESRF can now do rolling proposals for time on neutrons and x-rays. Initiative based around EMBL/ESRF/ILL - structural biology. AR - noted that it is only for the biology programs. Any plans to broaden it? CF - in his mind yet, but nothing officially discussed. See if it works with biology and then makes sense to extend. CF will bring it up at next PSB/SAS partnership.		#** ILL/ESRF can now do rolling proposals for time on neutrons and x-rays. Initiative based around EMBL/ESRF/ILL - structural biology. AR - noted that it is only for the biology programs. Any plans to broaden it? CF - in his mind yet, but nothing officially discussed. See if it works with biology and then makes sense to extend. CF will bring it up at next PSB/SAS partnership.
			#** BESSY2 and HZB combined center do it too.
			#**

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	#*** CF suggested that ARR goes to visit new SAS beamline at ESRF during his forthcoming visit.		#*** CF suggested that ARR goes to visit new SAS beamline at ESRF during his forthcoming visit.
	#** Standards - Extension of mailing list archives		#** Standards - Extension of mailing list archives
	#** IGOR ~~develper~~'s progress?		#** IGOR developer's progress?
	#*** AJJ Talked with Jan Ilavsky.		#*** AJJ Talked with Jan Ilavsky after Oxford canSAS-VI.
	#*** AJJ asked KL for his current code to test compatibility.		#*** AJJ asked KL for his current code to test compatibility.
	#** Is there a need for a GISAS working group?		#** Is there a need for a GISAS working group?
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	#*** ARR prodded Ralf and it was updated. ARR - people need to send Ralf Schweinsinfo. ACTION: NIST and ISIS will update.		#*** ARR prodded Ralf and it was updated. ARR - people need to send Ralf Schweinsinfo. ACTION: NIST and ISIS will update.
	#*** http://www.ill.eu/instruments-support/instruments-groups/groups/lss/more/world-directory-of-sans-instruments/		#*** http://www.ill.eu/instruments-support/instruments-groups/groups/lss/more/world-directory-of-sans-instruments/
	#*** ARR - PRJ was going to look at directory of SAXS. PRJ is going to build a web page with form for people to fill out. Essential PRJ is on it. Will await further report at ~~nexgt~~ call.		#*** ARR - PRJ was going to look at directory of SAXS. PRJ is going to build a web page with form for people to fill out. Essential PRJ is on it. Will await further report at next call.
	#** ~~Anybody~~ besides Bruker come to canSAS session?		#** Did any commercial instrument manufacturers besides Bruker come to canSAS session?
	#** Long pulse spallation source project update if any?		#** Long pulse spallation source project update if any?
	#*** ACTION: KL will send report (or link thereto) from Rome meeting as soon as it becomes available.		#*** ACTION: KL will send report (or link thereto) from Rome meeting as soon as it becomes available.

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	#*** AJJ - Make sure we are really talking about reduced data. What is needed to allow the NXsas to be used for TOF data?		#*** AJJ - Make sure we are really talking about reduced data. What is needed to allow the NXsas to be used for TOF data?
	#*** PRJ/SK - Have added namespaces to handle wavelength dependent transmissions etc.		#*** PRJ/SK - Have added namespaces to handle wavelength dependent transmissions etc.
	#*** RH/AR - Handling different q-space maps / detector geometries?		#*** RPH/ARR - Handling different q-space maps / detector geometries?
	#*** CF - noting meeting : http://www.esrf.eu/events/conferences/hdf5/hdf5/		#*** CF - noting meeting : http://www.esrf.eu/events/conferences/hdf5/hdf5/
	#*** PRJ - Action: Review of NXsas format?		#*** PRJ - Action: Review of NXsas format?
	#*** Action: Get some North American people to CF's meeting.		#*** Action: Get some North American people to CF's meeting.
	#*** AR to PRJ - any planned tools to read NXsas. Answer - Ideas: Translation app or browser/plotting app. Best answer would be strong bindings for various languages.		#*** ARR to PRJ - any planned tools to read NXsas. Answer - Ideas: Translation app or browser/plotting app. Best answer would be strong bindings for various languages.
	#*** Watch and wait on nexus before leaping in to 2D.		#*** Watch and wait on nexus before leaping in to 2D.
	#*** PRJ - Licensing. Need debate within working group.		#*** PRJ - Licensing. Need debate within working group.
	#*** AR - Update on 1D usage? AR wrote to ILL (Andrew Harrison) regarding use of format and has had no response. AJJ - NCNR will support in next release. No other updates.		#*** ARR - Update on 1D usage? ARR wrote to ILL (Andrew Harrison) regarding use of format and has had no response. AJJ - NCNR will support in next release. No other updates.
	#*** CF suggested that AR goes to visit new SAS beamline.		#*** CF suggested that ARR goes to visit new SAS beamline at ESRF during his forthcoming visit.
	#** Standards - Extension of mailing list archives		#** Standards - Extension of mailing list archives
	#** IGOR develper's progress?		#** IGOR develper's progress?
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	#*** AJJ asked KL for his current code to test compatibility.		#*** AJJ asked KL for his current code to test compatibility.
	#** Is there a need for a GISAS working group?		#** Is there a need for a GISAS working group?
	#*** Continue to hold on this. AR - put high on agenda for next discussion. Should think about we should involve the reflectometry community.		#*** Continue to hold on this. ARR - put high on agenda for next discussion. Should think about we should involve the reflectometry community.
	#*** ACTION: Mitsu Shibayama will contact expert in Korea about interest in 2D formats		#*** ACTION: Mitsu Shibayama will contact expert in Korea about interest in 2D formats
	#* From last meeting		#* From last meeting
	#** World SANS directory (SAXS?)		#** World SANS directory (SAXS?)
	#*** AR prodded Ralf and it was updated. AR - people need to send Ralf ~~info~~. ACTION: NIST and ISIS will update.		#*** ARR prodded Ralf and it was updated. ARR - people need to send Ralf Schweinsinfo. ACTION: NIST and ISIS will update.
	#*** http://www.ill.eu/instruments-support/instruments-groups/groups/lss/more/world-directory-of-sans-instruments/		#*** http://www.ill.eu/instruments-support/instruments-groups/groups/lss/more/world-directory-of-sans-instruments/
	#*** AR - PRJ was going to look at directory of SAXS. PRJ is going to build a web page with form for people to fill out. Essential PRJ is on it. Will await further report at nexgt call.		#*** ARR - PRJ was going to look at directory of SAXS. PRJ is going to build a web page with form for people to fill out. Essential PRJ is on it. Will await further report at nexgt call.
	#** Anybody besides Bruker come to canSAS session?		#** Anybody besides Bruker come to canSAS session?
	#** Long pulse spallation source project update if any?		#** Long pulse spallation source project update if any?
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	#** North Americans will formulate a plan for next meeting.		#** North Americans will formulate a plan for next meeting.
	#* Sydney meeting. what format?		#* Sydney meeting. what format?
	#** ~~Daniel?~~ Meeting should be before SAS so that the results of discussions can be presented in body of SAS meeting in session.		#** DC: Meeting should be before SAS so that the results of discussions can be presented in body of SAS meeting in session.
	#** EG : Suggests a 2day, Thu/Fri before SAS. No objections raised.		#** EPG : Suggests a 2day, Thu/Fri before SAS. No objections raised.
	#** Who convene? Facilities? Location? Should we include GI and ~~Refl~~?		#** Who convene? Facilities? Location? Should we include Grazing Incidence and Reflection?
	# Discussion on including other facility representation		# Discussion on including other facility representation
	#* SSRL / PSI / AU Synch. ACTION: call participants to email Paul Butler with suggestions of SAS facility people who might be interested and should be invited to participate. Paul Butler will try then to make contacts.		#* SSRL / PSI / AU Synch. ACTION: call participants to email Paul Butler with suggestions of SAS facility people who might be interested and should be invited to participate. Paul Butler will try then to make contacts.
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	#* e.g. data for windows and sample environments (see notes from [[canSAS-VI]])		#* e.g. data for windows and sample environments (see notes from [[canSAS-VI]])
	# Other issues and/or news from around the world		# Other issues and/or news from around the world
	#* Detectors		#* Detectors for SANS
	#** Koreans now have detector. Not tested with neutrons. ORNL have bioSANS detector working now. Local limit to 100 cps, global to 25000 cps.		#** Koreans now have detector. Not tested with neutrons. ORNL have bioSANS detector working now. Local limit to 100 cps, global to 25000 cps.
	#** RH has his detector working OK with new power supplies		#** RPH has his detector working OK with new power supplies
	#** SK - problems with discriminator cards. Gone through 5 total across two detectors.		#** SMK - problems with discriminator cards. Gone through 5 total across two detectors.
	#** KL - grounding and noise issues.		#** KL - grounding and noise issues.
	#* Long shutdowns		#* Long shutdowns
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	#** Could it go in SANS directory?		#** Could it go in SANS directory?
	#* SANS/SAXS collaboration		#* SANS/SAXS collaboration
	#** ILL/ESRF can now do ~~rolling~~ proposals for time on neutrons and x-rays. Initiative based around EMBL/ESRF/ILL - structural biology. AR - noted that it is only for the biology programs. Any plans to broaden it? CF - in his mind yet, but nothing officially discussed. See if it works with biology and then makes sense to extend. CF will bring it up at next PSB/SAS partnership.		#** ILL/ESRF can now do combined proposals for time on neutrons and x-rays. Initiative based around EMBL/ESRF/ILL - structural biology. ARR - noted that it is only for the biology programs. Any plans to broaden it? CF - in his mind yet, but nothing officially discussed. See if it works with biology and then makes sense to extend. CF will bring it up at next PSB/SAS partnership.
	#** BESSY2 and HMI combined center do it too.		#** DC: BESSY2 and HMI combined center do it too.
	#** ISIS/Diamond? SK - issues because Diamond is a separate entity. NT - need to discuss offline :)		#** ISIS/Diamond? SK - issues because Diamond is a separate entity. NT - need to discuss offline :)
	#* Next conference call should be in late January, after the meeting at the ESRF.		#* Next conference call should be in late January, after the meeting at the ESRF.