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Butler: /* Session notes */

2024-12-04T17:46:20Z

Session notes

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	* [[Databases Notes \| Database Session]]		* [[Databases Notes \| Database Session]]
	* [[AI Notes \| AI/ML in SAS Session]]		* [[AI Notes \| AI/ML in SAS Session]]
	* [[~~Final Discussion~~ \|General Topical Discussion Session]]		* [[Topical_Discussion \|General Topical Discussion Session]]

	'''Closing Discussion Notes'''		'''Closing Discussion Notes'''

Butler: /* Session notes */

2024-12-04T17:33:59Z

Session notes

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	* [[Databases Notes \| Database Session]]		* [[Databases Notes \| Database Session]]
	* [[AI Notes \| AI/ML in SAS Session]]		* [[AI Notes \| AI/ML in SAS Session]]
	* [[~~Topical~~ Discussion \|General Topical Discussion Session]]		* [[Final Discussion \|General Topical Discussion Session]]

	'''Closing Discussion Notes'''		'''Closing Discussion Notes'''

AdrianRennie at 09:54, 12 November 2024

2024-11-12T09:54:24Z

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	* [[2024_Worshop \| Sunday Workshop]]		* [[2024_Worshop \| Sunday Workshop - Program]]
	* [[media:canSAS2024Lunch.pdf \| Monday Lunch presentation]]		* [[media:canSAS2024Lunch.pdf \| Monday Lunch presentation]]

Butler at 23:28, 11 November 2024

2024-11-11T23:28:12Z

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	* Steve King (ISIS)		* Steve King (ISIS)
	* Wojciech Potrzebowski (SciLifeLab)		* Wojciech Potrzebowski (SciLifeLab)

			== Workshop photo(s) ==

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Butler at 22:59, 11 November 2024

2024-11-11T22:59:41Z

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	= Session notes =		= Session notes =
	== Working Group Discussion Notes ==		'''Working Group Discussion Notes'''
	* [[First WG Discussion \| First WG Discussion Session]]		* [[First WG Discussion \| First WG Discussion Session]]
	* [[Second WG Discussion \| Second WG Discussion Session]]		* [[Second WG Discussion \| Second WG Discussion Session]]

	== Topical Discussion Notes ==		'''Topical Discussion Notes'''
	* [[Data Reduction Notes \| Data Reduction Session]]		* [[Data Reduction Notes \| Data Reduction Session]]
	* [[Databases Notes \| Database Session]]		* [[Databases Notes \| Database Session]]
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	* [[Topical Discussion \|General Topical Discussion Session]]		* [[Topical Discussion \|General Topical Discussion Session]]

	== Closing Discussion Notes ==		'''Closing Discussion Notes'''
	[[Final Discussion \| Going Forward]]		[[Final Discussion \| Going Forward]]

Butler at 22:50, 11 November 2024

2024-11-11T22:50:01Z

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	= Session notes =		= Session notes =
			== Working Group Discussion Notes ==
			* [[First WG Discussion \| First WG Discussion Session]]
			* [[Second WG Discussion \| Second WG Discussion Session]]

	== ~~Databases session:~~ ==		== Topical Discussion Notes ==
			* [[Data Reduction Notes \| Data Reduction Session]]
	~~Fair data - there are checkers available for example www/f-uji.net/~~		* [[Databases Notes \| Database Session]]
			* [[AI Notes \| AI/ML in SAS Session]]
	~~Public databases:~~		* [[Topical Discussion \|General Topical Discussion Session]]
	~~Catalog of fair databases: fairsharing.org brings up two databases, SASPDB and~~ [~~xx?~~]
	~~simplescattering.com~~
	~~Zenodo also contains 14k datasets, also software.~~

	~~Local databases:~~
	~~SciCat: possibility to catalog datasets and instruments.~~
	~~Tiled: data access framework linked to BlueSky, future connection with scicat will be done.~~

	~~- A publicly accessible (scicat) catalog would be useful for labs to catalog public scattering datasets~~ in.
	- This could be taken up as part of the International Scattering Alliance, certainly falls within its remit. Needs a document to specify what is needed, what should be uploaded to it, and how much it would cost.
	- Data to include in this would be (corrected, well-documented) data on easily accessible samples. This could include single phases (backgrounds) like water, hexane, toluene, acetone, PEG-DA, scotch tape, etc., and also reference samples such as the silver nanoparticle solutions. The datasets and samples should be well-described and ideally complete with a data processing graph.
	~~- There should be a provision to add annotations (text, keywords, flags) to datasets, this could say a lot about the human interpretation of given datasets.~~
	~~- This (and other well-documented databases) could have benefits for the third “user” group: the group of people that need your data to train ML systems.~~
	- All databases need to have a good user interface that actually addresses the need of the user. Once you build that, and the user sees the benefit they get from this, they will come. For example, MX people cannot work without their dashboards. FAIR-compliant user interfaces need to become easy enough to use that it becomes prohibitively hard for the user not to follow the recommended pathway.
	- We might need guidelines on how to describe a sample sufficiently well, so that they can be used in the analysis. This data, and the (corrected, fully described) data should be made available in a public repository at the latest at the time of publication.

			== Closing Discussion Notes ==
			[[Final Discussion \| Going Forward]]

	= Organising Committee =		= Organising Committee =

Butler at 16:22, 8 November 2024

2024-11-08T16:22:38Z

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	* [[2024_Worshop \| Sunday Workshop]]		* [[2024_Worshop \| Sunday Workshop]]
	* [[~~2024_Present~~ \| Monday Lunch presentation]]		* [[media:canSAS2024Lunch.pdf \| Monday Lunch presentation]]

	= Session notes =		= Session notes =

Ajj at 07:44, 3 November 2024

2024-11-03T07:44:48Z

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	* [[~~2024_Workshop~~ \| Sunday Workshop]]		* [[2024_Worshop \| Sunday Workshop]]
	* [[2024_Present \| Monday Lunch presentation]]		* [[2024_Present \| Monday Lunch presentation]]

Brian: Added notes on the databases session

2024-11-03T07:27:35Z

Added notes on the databases session

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 = Organising Committee =

Brian: typo correction

2024-11-03T05:25:30Z

typo correction

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	* [[~~2024_Worshop~~ \| Sunday Workshop]]		* [[2024_Workshop \| Sunday Workshop]]
	* [[2024_Present \| Monday Lunch presentation]]		* [[2024_Present \| Monday Lunch presentation]]