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Discussion on Data Corrections (N=neutrons, X=X-rays)  | |||
Detectors:  | |||
There are a lot of stories on what not to do. I would be nice to put some of these stories online.  | |||
Some advice:  | |||
 N Don’t stagger detector tubes, the partial shielding is nontrivial to correct for (Ken Littrell)  | |||
 N recalibrate position every so often to compensate for stretch and offset caused by charge division electronics instability.  | |||
 N Coincidence detectors are difficult to correct for (with the compensation dome on top)  | |||
 N Boron technology detectors will have their own issues, corrections and complications.  | |||
 X Not able to measure direct beam on the same detector. Can be resolved by:  | |||
  -  partially transparent beamstop,  | |||
  - attennuator as beamstop  | |||
  - pin-diodes (should be placed close to sample to determine transmission according to Richard Heenan’s definiton).  | |||
 X Difficult to measure flat field, can be done by:  | |||
  - Glassy carbon,  | |||
  - moving detector across the beam  | |||
  - Careful when measuring: only flat field should be determined, not the other corrections!  | |||
Other advice:  | |||
 - Add resolution in SAXS and SANS, both lab and facility  | |||
 - Minimise air in all techniques!  | |||
 - how to deal with resolution?  | |||
 - traceability of corrections are needed (provenance)  | |||
 - calibration sample should be available at facilities  | |||
 - much more information needs to be available everywhere (make a list?)  | |||
 - Desmear on lab-sources  | |||
 - How far can you correct with background correction?  | |||
 N TOF choppers can be a big source of background.  | |||
 N Shield around active elements (and put holes in the right place)  | |||
 N Cover aigrets with absorbing tubes  | |||
 N Recommended slit design: use B4C with sintered edge.  | |||
Revision as of 02:28, 17 April 2015
Nomadic utopia: towards a better understanding of all instrumental artifacts
Discussion Leaders
- Charles Dewhurst (ILL)
 - Brian Pauw (NIMS)
 
Presentations
Discsussion Notes
Discussion on Data Corrections (N=neutrons, X=X-rays)
Detectors:
There are a lot of stories on what not to do. I would be nice to put some of these stories online. Some advice:
N Don’t stagger detector tubes, the partial shielding is nontrivial to correct for (Ken Littrell) N recalibrate position every so often to compensate for stretch and offset caused by charge division electronics instability. N Coincidence detectors are difficult to correct for (with the compensation dome on top) N Boron technology detectors will have their own issues, corrections and complications.
X Not able to measure direct beam on the same detector. Can be resolved by: - partially transparent beamstop, - attennuator as beamstop - pin-diodes (should be placed close to sample to determine transmission according to Richard Heenan’s definiton). X Difficult to measure flat field, can be done by: - Glassy carbon, - moving detector across the beam - Careful when measuring: only flat field should be determined, not the other corrections!
Other advice:
- Add resolution in SAXS and SANS, both lab and facility - Minimise air in all techniques! - how to deal with resolution? - traceability of corrections are needed (provenance) - calibration sample should be available at facilities - much more information needs to be available everywhere (make a list?) - Desmear on lab-sources - How far can you correct with background correction? N TOF choppers can be a big source of background. N Shield around active elements (and put holes in the right place) N Cover aigrets with absorbing tubes N Recommended slit design: use B4C with sintered edge.