canSAS-2012

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2012 Meeting of canSAS working groups

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Purpose

Work on specific matters important to the canSAS community as decided in previous conference calls. It is expected that those attending this working session will already have strong foundation and understanding and will come ready with knowledge, tools, and ideas to make significant progress during the event. The specific projects and tasks, as well as the list of participants, are described on this wiki and will be revised as the event draws near.

The three main themes are:


This page provides discussion of the themes, preliminary work and ideas : 2012 Discussion

Outcomes

  • 2-d data format
  • A plan for standards
  • Global SAS Web Portal
  • presentation at SAS2012

Time and Place

Dates

  • 2012 July 28 - 31 (Saturday - Tuesday, inclusive)

Meeting Location

Uppsala University
Building: Angstrom Laboratory [1]
Room(s): Faculty Room, Angstrom Lab. (2nd floor above main entrance). Additional break-out sessions in Rooms 61416 and 62416.

We will hold some web based sessions (Webinars) during the meeting so that people in the broader canSAS community that are unable to attend in person can participate in some of the discussions during the meeting.

Schedule

  • arrive the previous day (Friday, 2012-07-27)
  • conference check-in first morning (Saturday, 2012-07-28), location Angstrom Laboratory
  • meet all day (Sunday, 2012-07-29), location Angstrom Laboratory
  • meet all day (Monday, 2012-07-30), location Angstrom Laboratory
  • meet all day (Tuesday, 2012-07-31), location Angstrom Laboratory
  • checkout next day (Wednesday, 2012-08-01)

Daily Agenda

Meeting room is the Faculty Room (House 1, Floor 2 - directly above main entrance). We will also use rooms 61416 and 62416 for breakout sessions.

Here is a suggested schedule (tentative):


Saturday, 28 July 2012

Uppsala time description comments UK BST US CDT AUS EST Japan JST
09:00 - 09:15 AM plenary Welcome and Introductions        
09:15 - 10:30 AM plenary 5 minute presentation by each participant of ideas and challenges ( see below)        
10:30 - 10:45 AM plenary tea, coffee        
10:45 - 11:10 PM plenary Report presentations

NIAC status and plans for SAS data formats
Current plans and efforts of IUCr CSAS on standards
Current plans and efforts of IUCr CSAS on SAS web efforts

        
11:10 - 12:30 PM plenary Plenary discussion on standardisation, data formats, web portal        
12:30 - 2:00 PM lunch Sandwiches in Coffee area - House 6, Floor 1.        
2:00 - 3:00 PM plenary Webinar

focused discussions of 20 min on each topic:
standardisation, data formats, and web portal

1:00-2:00 PM 7:00-8:00 AM 10:00-11:00 PM 9:00-10:00 PM
3:00 - 4:30 PM afternoon session work in groups - standardisation, data formats, web portal        
4:30 - 4:45 PM plenary tea, coffee        
4:45 - 6:30 PM afternoon session work in groups - standardisation, data formats, web portal        
8:00 - 9:30 PM dinner Restuarant Åkanten        
8:30 PM - ? evening discussions ad hoc        

Sunday 29 July 2012

Uppsala time description comments
08:45 - 09:45 AM plenary Reports, questions, and discussion

and plan day's work

09:45 - 10:00 AM plenary tea, coffee
10:00 - 12:00 noon morning session work in groups
12:00 - 1:30 PM lunch Sandwiches in Coffee area - House 6, Floor 1.
1:30 - 4:30 PM afternoon session work in groups
4:30 - 4:45 PM plenary tea, coffee
4:45 - 6:00 PM plenary reports and discussions
6:30 - 8:00 PM dinner TBA
8:30 PM - ? evening discussions ad hoc

The intensity of deliberations takes its toll on Andrew & Lionel...

takingitstoll.jpg

Monday 30 July 2012

Uppsala time description comments UK BST US CDT AUS EST Japan JST
08:45 - 09:30 AM plenary Webinar 7:45-8:30 AM 1:45-2:30 AM 4:45-5:30 PM 3:45-4:30 PM
09:30 - 09:45 AM plenary tea, coffee        
09:45 - 12:00 noon morning session work in groups        
12:00 - 1:30 PM lunch to be determined        
1:30 - 4:30 PM afternoon session work in groups        
4:30 - 4:45 PM plenary tea, coffee        
4:45 - 6:00 PM plenary reports and discussions - plan dissemination        
6:30 - 8:00 PM dinner TBA        
8:30 PM - ? evening discussions ad hoc        

Tuesday 31 July 2012

Uppsala time description comments UK BST US CDT AUS EST Japan JST
08:45 - 09:30 AM plenary Plan reports/outcomes*        
09:30 - 09:45 AM plenary tea, coffee        
09:45 - 12:00 noon morning session groups work on reports/outcomes*        
12:00 - 1:30 PM lunch to be determined        
1:30 - 3:45 PM afternoon session groups work on reports/outcomes*        
3:45 - 4:00 PM plenary tea, coffee        
4:00 - 6:00 PM plenary Webinar

Presentation of prelim reports and concluding discussions

3:00-5:00 PM 9:00-11:00 AM 12:00 midnight-2:00 AM (Wed. 1 Aug.) 11:00 PM-1:00 AM
6:30 - 8:00 PM dinner TBA        
8:30 PM - ? evening discussions ad hoc        

* Besides reports other outcomes could include schemas,api definitions, live web pages, etc.

Webinar Schedule and Themes

This list has been extracted from the above program.

Please use the specific links below for each date to join the webinars at the stated time. If you send your e-mail contact details to Adrian.Rennie@fysik.uu.se we can try to keep you informed of any late technical changes. If you have never attended an Adobe Connect meeting before the following tests and information may be helpful:

(a) Test your connection: https://connect.sunet.se/common/help/en/support/meeting_test.htm

(b) Get a quick overview: http://www.adobe.com/go/connectpro_overview

Reminder: it is a good idea to check your sound before the meeting. Use of a headset is strongly recommended to avoid background noise and feedback. You will be able to access the webinar as a 'guest'. Please give your name so that you are identified to other participants. Participants can contribute presentations and display material from their computers. When you connect to the meeting as a guest, you will need to wait for a host to accept your participation. It will be most efficient if everyone connects a little before the advertised start time!

You do not need specific software or licenses to participate in these meetings. You will be prompted to install Adobe Flash (free) if you wish to participate.

We can arrange other ad-hoc electronic meetings if necessary. Please contact participants or the host (Adrian Rennie) to make arrangements.

How to get to specific webinars

Saturday, 28 July 2012

Focused discussions of 20 min on each topic: standardisation, data formats, and web portal

To join the meeting go to the following link in a browser: https://connect.sunet.se/cansas2012_i/

  • Uppsala: 2:00 - 3:00 PM
  • UK BST: 1:00 - 2:00 PM
  • US CDT: 7:00 - 8:00 AM
  • AUS EST: 10:00 - 11:00 PM
  • Japan JST: 9:00 - 10:00 PM
Sunday, 29 July 2012

no webinar

Monday, 30 July 2012

This will provide updates on work at the meeting.

To join the meeting go to the following link in a browser: https://connect.sunet.se/cansas_ii/

  • Uppsala: 8:45 - 9:30 AM
  • UK BST: 7:45 - 8:30 AM
  • US CDT: 1:45 - 2:30 AM
  • AUS EST: 4:45 - 5:30 PM
  • Japan JST: 3:45 - 4:30 PM
Tuesday, 31 July 2012

Presentation of preliminary reports and concluding discussions

To join the meeting go to the following link in a browser: https://connect.sunet.se/cansas_iii/

  • Uppsala: 4:00 - 6:00 PM
  • UK BST: 3:00 - 5:00 PM
  • US CDT: 9:00 - 11:00 AM
  • AUS EST: 12:00 Midnight (Wednesday 1 August)- 2:00 AM (Wednesday 1 August)
  • Japan JST: 11:00 PM (Tuesday 31 July) - 1:00 AM (Wednesday 1 August)

Business Matters

Standard Reduced Data Format

More details and suggestions are on the Discussion Page: 2012 Data Discussion .

  • Re-enunciate purpose and benefits of a standard reduced data format
  • 1D Format
    • agree a proposed extension of the current 1D standard
  • 2D Format
    • define minimum information necessary for reduced data
    • suggest format framework (NeXus extension, canSAS 1D extension, other) with brief discussion of the reason for the choice (including options considered, pros and cons of each, and final weighing)
    • Guide to how to make implementation easy.
    • Create straw format suitable for test/demonstration use and convert some test data for such a demonstration.
    • Provide a plan for presentation at SAS 2012

Calibration Standards

More details and suggestions are on the Discussion Page: 2012 Standards Discussion

  • Standards
  • Purpose and goals: Intercomparison of data measured on the same sample with different instruments and different techniques (SAXS, SANS, light scattering etc.) can prove valuable in a number of ways. In particular it aids understanding of details of the experimental methods and it can help assess reliability. In a similar way, looking at results of data reduction or analysis generated with different software can provide valuable information about performance and verification of methodology. Specifically these activities should:
    • Discuss what types of tests are interesting/important, intensity, resolution etc.
    • Consider related issues: Inelastic, Multiple scattering, Wavelength contamination, Detector efficiencies at different wavelengths
  • Outcomes needed are:
    • A written plan to sustain long term effort in this area
    • This should describe how to seed, co-ordinate and publicise “ad-hoc” projects ,
    • Assess how frequently exercises can be undertaken
    • Define good ways to disseminate/share results. This will including “advertising” projects and using them as input for other activities.
  • We should aim to define a list of 2 or 3 projects for work in the near term. This should include a plan of action and participants for each.
  • We should have a plan for presentation at SAS 2012. (This might just be an announcement of the plan and see who wants to participate?.)

Global SAS Web Portal

More details and suggestions are on the Discussion Page: 2012 Web Discussion

  • define scope, purpose, and goal of portal
  • list content type to which such a portal should give access.
  • Suggest method for hosting
  • Build a working straw landing page prototype
  • Build at least 2 or 3 subpages and/or designs on paper
  • plan for presentations
    • SAS 2012
    • SAS commission

Projects and Tasks

These items are sorted in order of priority that they be finished.

  1. 2-D format
  2. Standardization
  3. SAS web portal

Presentations

These presentation were given on the first day:

Practical Matters

Registration

Please inform Adrian Rennie of your intention to particpate and send details of your arrival and departure dates. You should book the accommodation directly with the hotel - see below.

Hotel

Clarion Hotel Gillet, Uppsala
Dragarbrunnsgatan 23,
753 20 Uppsala, Sweden

  • Expect hotel rate to be 570 SEK for 1 Single Bed (approximate, subject to change)
  • Please reserve your own rooms directly with the hotel (website, phone, ...)

The quoted rate at the hotel should include breakfast. This hotel is in the centre of Uppsala (see map) and is a few minutes walk from the railway station.

Web site
http://www.clarionhotelgillet.com/
telephone
+46 (0) 18 68 18 00
fax
+46 (0) 18 68 18 18
e-mail
cl.uppsala@choice.se
map reference

Directions and Maps

The most convenient and fastest means to reach the hotel from the airport is usually to take the trains from Arlanda Central station (under SkyCity) to Uppsala. Upptåget trains leave the airport at xx:27 and xx:57 thoughout the day and take 20 minutes. The fare is 140 SEK (one way) and this can be paid with cash or by credit card at the ticket desk or using machines (red ticket machines - credit card only). If you plan to take a long distance train operated by Swedish Railways (SJ) you should buy different tickets. The hotel is a few minutes walk from the station in Uppsala.

You can also take the bus 801 from Arlanda Airport to Uppsala which departs every 30 minutes and takes about 40 minutes. The buses leave from stop number 13 (there is a stop with this number outside each terminal). Tickets can be bought at the airport or with a Swedish mobile phone or a Visa/Master Card on the bus. Cash is not accepted on the bus.

If you plan to take a taxi you can prebook a taxi and there is a fixed rate from the airport to Uppsala. You should make certain that you use one of the Uppsala taxi companies if you simply go to the rank at the airport.

Other Details

Host

  • Adrian Rennie
    • institute: Uppsala University
    • email: Adrian.Rennie@fysik.uu.se
    • office phone: +46184713596

Costs

  • Conference fee: no fee
  • regular meals (breakfast, lunch, dinner) will be traveller's expense

Equipment

item quantity who provides?
projector & screen 1 for each meeting room host
LCD displays, keyboards, & mice a few if needed host
electrical power extension cords plenty host
foreign electrical power adapter as needed traveller
Wi-Fi connections sufficient host venue

Participants

participant affiliation arriving departing registration? other
Adrian Rennie Uppsala University host host host  
Paul Butler NIST 2012-07-27 2012-08-02 Yes  
Andrew Jackson ESS 2012-07-27 2012-08-01 Yes  
Pete Jemian APS 2012-07-27 2012-08-01 Yes  
Steve King ISIS 2012-07-27 2012-08-01 Yes  
Tobias Richter Diamond Light Source 2012-07-27 2012-08-01 Yes  
Lionel Porcar Institut Laue Langevin 2012-07-27 2012-08-01 Yes  
Masaaki Sugiyama Kyoto University 2012-07-27 2012-07-30 Yes  
Ron Ghosh University College London 2012-07-27 2012-08-01 Yes  
Yuya Shinohara University of Tokyo 2012-07-27 2012-08-01 Yes  
Sarah Rogers ISIS 2012-07-27 2012-07-29 Yes  
Maja Hellsing Uppsala University host host Yes  
Duncan McGillivray University of Auckland 2012-07-27 2012-08-01 Yes  

Final Report

Draft versions of the reports of work of groups at the meeting can be found at:

Group Reports

Data Format Group http://www.smallangles.net/wgwiki/index.php/2012_Data_Working_Group_Report

Standards Group http://www.smallangles.net/wgwiki/index.php/StandardsGroupReport

Web Portal Group http://www.smallangles.net/wgwiki/index.php/2012_Web_Working_Group_Report

The new web portal for the small angle scattering community is http://www.smallangle.org/

General Remarks

The work in these areas is ongoing. Specific actions have been identified by the work groups. Some general activities that encompass several themes will be:

  • A presentation and discussion session will be held at the SAS2012 Conference in Sydney in November 2012. This will describe activities and ask for broader participation.
  • Updates to the work group mail lists will be required for technical reasons and the opportunity will be taken to review the membersip of the lists so that e-mail addresses of people that have not been active and not requested continued participation will be removed.


Acknowledgements

The results described arise from four full days of intensive work in small groups during the meeting in Uppsala and from preparatory work. We acknowledge the generous support of the agencies employing the particpants that have made available time and travel resources to permit the co-operative work. We are also grateful to people who have given freely of their own time to support the SAS community. Just the direct participation amounts to about two-person months of effort. These 'sponsors' are APS (Argonne National Laboratory), NCNR (National Institute of Standards and Technology), ISIS (STFC), the Diamond Light Source, the European Spallation Source, Institut Laue Langevin, University of Auckland, Kyoto University, University of Tokyo and Uppsala University. We are also grateful for further participation from ANSTO, APS and ESRF in webinars and by making contributions to discussion on the wiki.

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