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= 2012 Meeting of canSAS working groups =
= 2012 Meeting of canSAS working groups =
    '''The <tt>''[[Full Report|FINAL REPORT]]''</tt> is now available.'''
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= Purpose =
= Purpose =


Work on specific matters important to the canSAS community as decided in previous conference calls.
Work on specific matters important to the canSAS (collective action for nomadic Small-Angle Scatterers) community as decided in previous conference calls.
It is expected that those attending this working session will already have strong foundation and  
It is expected that those attending this working session will already have strong foundation and  
understanding and will come ready with knowledge, tools, and ideas to make significant progress  
understanding and will come ready with knowledge, tools, and ideas to make significant progress  
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*  Treated data format - developing a standard for multidimensional treated data and resolving issues that arise with the 1-d standard and its implementaion.
*  Treated data format - developing a standard for multidimensional treated data and resolving issues that arise with the 1-d standard and its implementaion.
** Discussion Page : [[ 2012 Data Discussion ]]
** Discussion Page : [[ 2012 Data Discussion ]]
** Report Page : [[ 2012 Data Working Group Report ]]
*  Standardisation - intercomparison of measurements and software for data reduction and analysis so as to assess experimental and intstrumental reliability
*  Standardisation - intercomparison of measurements and software for data reduction and analysis so as to assess experimental and intstrumental reliability
** Discussion Page : [[ 2012 Standards Discussion ]]
** Discussion Page : [[ 2012 Standards Discussion ]]
** Report Page: [[ StandardsGroupReport ]]
*  Development of a Global SAS web portal.  This should be a general point of entry for the community to find information about small-angle scattering.
*  Development of a Global SAS web portal.  This should be a general point of entry for the community to find information about small-angle scattering.
** Discussion Page : [[ 2012 Web Discussion ]]
** Discussion Page : [[ 2012 Web Discussion ]]
** Report Page : [[ 2012 Web Working Group Report ]]




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<br />Building:  Angstrom Laboratory [http://www.polacksbacken.uu.se/Valkommen_till_Polacksbacken/Polacksbackens+historia/Angstromlaboratoriet/]<br />Room(s): Faculty Room, Angstrom Lab. (2nd floor above main entrance).  Additional break-out sessions in Rooms 61416 and 62416.
<br />Building:  Angstrom Laboratory [http://www.polacksbacken.uu.se/Valkommen_till_Polacksbacken/Polacksbackens+historia/Angstromlaboratoriet/]<br />Room(s): Faculty Room, Angstrom Lab. (2nd floor above main entrance).  Additional break-out sessions in Rooms 61416 and 62416.


We plan to hold some web based sessions during the meeting so that people in the broader canSAS community that are unable to attend in person can participate in some of the discussions during the meeting.
We will hold some web based sessions (Webinars) during the meeting so that people in the broader canSAS community that are unable to attend in person can participate in some of the discussions during the meeting.


== Schedule ==
== Schedule ==
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| align="center" | Welcome and Introductions
| align="center" | Welcome and Introductions
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| 09:15 - 10:30 AM
| 09:15 - 10:30 AM
| align="center" | plenary
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| align="center" | 5 minute presentation by each participant of ideas and challenges
| align="center" | 5 minute presentation by each participant of ideas and challenges ([[canSAS-2012#Presentations | see below]])
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| 10:30 - 10:45 AM
| 10:30 - 10:45 AM
| align="center" | plenary
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| align="center" | tea, coffee
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| 10:45 - 11:10 PM
| 10:45 - 11:10 PM
| align="center" | Plenary
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| align="center" | Report presentations
| align="center" | Report presentations
NIAC status and plans for SAS data formats<br>
NIAC status and plans for SAS data formats<br>
Current plans and efforts of IUCr CSAS on standards<br>
Current plans and efforts of IUCr CSAS on standards<br>
Current plans and efforts of IUCr CSAS on SAS web efforts<br>
Current plans and efforts of IUCr CSAS on SAS web efforts<br>
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| 11:10 - 12:30 PM
| 11:10 - 12:30 PM
| align="center" | Plenary
| align="center" | plenary
| align="center" | Plenary discussion on standardisation, data formats, web portal
| align="center" | Plenary discussion on standardisation, data formats, web portal
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| 12:30  - 2:00 PM
| 12:30  - 2:00 PM
| align="center" | lunch
| align="center" | lunch
| align="center" | Sandwiches in Coffee area - House 6, Floor 1.
| align="center" | Sandwiches in Coffee area - House 6, Floor 1.
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| 2:00 - 3:00 PM
| 2:00 - 3:00 PM
| align="center" | Plenary
| align="center" | plenary
| align="center" | '''Webinar'''
| align="center" | '''Webinar'''
focused discussions of 20 min on each topic:<br>
focused discussions of 20 min on each topic:<br>
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| align="center" | afternoon session
| align="center" | afternoon session
| align="center" | work in groups - standardisation, data formats, web portal
| align="center" | work in groups - standardisation, data formats, web portal
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| 4:30 - 4:45 PM
| 4:30 - 4:45 PM
| align="center" | plenary
| align="center" | plenary
| align="center" | tea, coffee
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| 4:45 - 6:00 PM
| 4:45 - 6:30 PM
| align="center" | afternoon session
| align="center" | afternoon session
| align="center" | work in groups - standardisation, data formats, web portal
| align="center" | work in groups - standardisation, data formats, web portal
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| 6:30 - 8:00 PM
| 8:00 - 9:30 PM
| align="center" | dinner
| align="center" | dinner
| align="center" | TBA
| align="center" | Restuarant Åkanten
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| 8:30 PM - ?
| 9:30 PM - ?
| align="center" | evening discussions
| align="center" | evening discussions
| align="center" | ad hoc
| align="center" | ad hoc
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| align="center" | reports and discussions
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| 6:30 - 8:00 PM
| 7:30 - 10:00 PM
| align="center" | dinner
| align="center" | dinner
| align="center" | TBA
| align="center" | Restaurant Lingon
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| 8:30 PM - ?
| 10:00 PM - ?
| align="center" | evening discussions
| align="center" | evening discussions
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The intensity of deliberations takes its toll on Andrew & Lionel...
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=== Monday 30 July 2012 ===
=== Monday 30 July 2012 ===
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| align="center" | tea, coffee
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| 09:45 - 12:00 noon
| 09:45 - 12:00 noon
| align="center" | morning session
| align="center" | morning session
| align="center" | work in groups
| align="center" | work in groups
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| 12:00  - 1:30 PM
| 12:00  - 1:30 PM
| align="center" | lunch
| align="center" | lunch
| align="center" | to be determined
| align="center" | Sandwiches in Coffee area - House 6, Floor 1.
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| 1:30 - 4:30 PM
| 1:30 - 4:30 PM
| align="center" | afternoon session
| align="center" | afternoon session
| align="center" | work in groups
| align="center" | work in groups
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| 4:30 - 4:45 PM
| 4:30 - 4:45 PM
| align="center" | plenary
| align="center" | plenary
| align="center" | tea, coffee
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| 4:45 - 6:00 PM
| 4:45 - 6:30 PM
| align="center" | plenary
| align="center" | plenary
| align="center" | reports and discussions - plan dissemination
| align="center" | reports and discussions - plan dissemination
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| 6:30 - 8:00 PM
| 7:30 - 9:00 PM
| align="center" | dinner
| align="center" | dinner
| align="center" | TBA
| align="center" | Restaurant Alexander
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| 8:30 PM - ?
| 9:00 PM - ?
| align="center" | evening discussions
| align="center" | evening discussions
| align="center" | ad hoc
| align="center" | ad hoc
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| align="center" | plenary
| align="center" | Plan reports/outcomes<sup>*</sup>
| align="center" | Plan reports/outcomes<sup>*</sup>
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| 09:30 - 09:45 AM
| 09:30 - 09:45 AM
| align="center" | plenary
| align="center" | plenary
| align="center" | tea, coffee
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| 09:45 - 12:00 noon
| 09:45 - 12:00 noon
| align="center" | morning session
| align="center" | morning session
| align="center" | groups work on reports/outcomes<sup>*</sup>
| align="center" | groups work on reports/outcomes<sup>*</sup>
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| 12:00  - 1:30 PM
| 12:00  - 1:30 PM
| align="center" | lunch
| align="center" | lunch
| align="center" | to be determined
| align="center" | Sandwiches in Coffee area - House 6, Floor 1.
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| 1:30 - 3:45 PM
| 1:30 - 3:45 PM
| align="center" | afternoon session
| align="center" | afternoon session
| align="center" | groups work on reports/outcomes<sup>*</sup>
| align="center" | groups work on reports/outcomes<sup>*</sup>
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| 3:45 - 4:00 PM
| 3:45 - 4:00 PM
| align="center" | plenary
| align="center" | plenary
| align="center" | tea, coffee
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| 4:00 - 6:00 PM
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| align="center" | 3:00-5:00 PM
| align="center" | 9:00-11:00 AM
| align="center" | 9:00-11:00 AM
| align="center" | 12:00 PM-2:00 AM
| align="center" | 12:00 midnight-2:00 AM (Wed. 1 Aug.)
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| 6:30 - 8:00 PM
| 6:30 - 8:30 PM
| align="center" | dinner
| align="center" | evening discussions
| align="center" | TBA
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| 8:30 PM - ?
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| align="center" | evening discussions
| align="center" | Dinner and discussion
| align="center" | ad hoc
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<sup>*</sup> Besides reports other outcomes could include schemas,api definitions, live web pages, etc.
<sup>*</sup> Besides reports other outcomes could include schemas, api definitions, live web pages, etc.
 
=== Webinar Schedule and Themes ===
 
This list has been extracted from the above program. 
 
Please use the specific links below for each date to join the webinars at the stated time.  If you send your e-mail contact details to Adrian.Rennie@fysik.uu.se we can try to keep you informed of any late technical changes.  If you have never attended an Adobe Connect meeting before the following tests and information may be helpful:
 
(a) Test your connection: https://connect.sunet.se/common/help/en/support/meeting_test.htm
 
(b) Get a quick overview: http://www.adobe.com/go/connectpro_overview
 
Reminder: it is a good idea to check your sound before the meeting. Use of a headset is strongly recommended to avoid background noise and feedback. You will be able to access the webinar as a 'guest'.  Please give your name so that you are identified to other participants.  Participants can contribute presentations and display material from their computers.  When you connect to the meeting as a guest, you will need to wait for a host to accept your participation.  It will be most efficient if everyone connects a little before the advertised start time!
 
You do not need specific software or licenses to participate in these meetings.  You will be prompted to install Adobe Flash (free) if you wish to participate.
 
We can arrange other ad-hoc electronic meetings if necessary.  Please contact participants or the host (Adrian Rennie) to make arrangements.
 
==== How to get to specific webinars ====
 
===== Saturday, 28 July 2012  =====
 
Focused discussions of 20 min on each topic:
standardisation, data formats, and web portal
 
To join the meeting go to the following link in a browser:
https://connect.sunet.se/cansas2012_i/
 
* Uppsala: 2:00 - 3:00 PM
* UK BST: 1:00 - 2:00 PM
* US CDT: 7:00 - 8:00 AM
* AUS EST: 10:00 - 11:00 PM
* Japan JST: 9:00 - 10:00 PM
 
===== Sunday, 29 July 2012  =====
 
no webinar
 
===== Monday, 30 July 2012  =====


=== Webinar Schedule ===
This will provide updates on work at the meeting.


(This has been extracted from the above table)
To join the meeting go to the following link in a browser:
https://connect.sunet.se/cansas_ii/


==== How to get to the webinar ====
* Uppsala: 8:45 - 9:30 AM
* UK BST: 7:45 - 8:30 AM
* US CDT: 1:45 - 2:30 AM
* AUS EST: 4:45 - 5:30 PM
* Japan JST: 3:45 - 4:30 PM


==== Saturday, 28 July 2012  ====
===== Tuesday, 31 July 2012  =====


==== Sunday, 29 July 2012  ====
Presentation of preliminary reports and concluding discussions


==== Monday, 30 July 2012  ====
To join the meeting go to the following link in a browser:
https://connect.sunet.se/cansas_iii/


==== Tuesday, 31 July 2012  ====
* Uppsala: 4:00 - 6:00 PM
* UK BST: 3:00 - 5:00 PM
* US CDT: 9:00 - 11:00 AM
* AUS EST: 12:00 Midnight (Wednesday 1 August)- 2:00 AM (Wednesday 1 August)
* Japan JST: 11:00 PM (Tuesday 31 July) - 1:00 AM (Wednesday 1 August)


= Business Matters =
= Business Matters =
== Standard Reduced Data Format ==
More details and suggestions are on the Discussion Page: [[ 2012 Data Discussion ]].


* '''Re-enunciate purpose and benefits of a standard ''reduced data'' format'''
* '''Re-enunciate purpose and benefits of a standard ''reduced data'' format'''
** '''1D Format'''
* '''1D Format'''
*** agree a proposed foreign namespace extension of the current 1D standard (required to enable, for example, t-o-f instruments to store auxiliary wavelength-dependent non-I(Q) data in the same output files)
** agree a proposed extension of the current 1D standard  
** '''2D Format'''
* '''2D Format'''
*** define minimum necessary for reduced data
** define minimum information necessary for reduced data
*** suggest format framework (NeXus extension, canSAS 1D extension, other) with brief discussion of the reason for the choice (including options considered, pros and cons of each, and final weighing)
** suggest format framework (NeXus extension, canSAS 1D extension, other) with brief discussion of the reason for the choice (including options considered, pros and cons of each, and final weighing)
*** Guide to how to make implementation easy.
** Guide to how to make implementation easy.
*** Create straw format suitable for test/demonstration use and convert some test data for such a demonstration.
** Create straw format suitable for test/demonstration use and convert some test data for such a demonstration.
*** Provide a plan for presentation at SAS 2012
** Provide a plan for presentation at SAS 2012
More details and suggestions are on the Discussion Page: [[ 2012 Data Discussion ]].
 
* '''Standards'''
== Standards and Calibrations ==
** Purpose and goals: Intercomparison of data measured on the same sample with different instruments and different techniques (SAXS, SANS, light scattering etc.) can prove valuable in a number of ways.  In particular it aids understanding of details of the experimental methods and it can help assess reliability.  In a similar way, looking at results of data reduction or analysis generated with different software can provide valuable information about performance and verification of methodology. Specifically these activities should:
 
*** Discuss what types of tests are interesting/important, intensity, resolution etc.
*** Consider related issues: Inelastic, Multiple scattering, Wavelength contamination, Detector efficiencies at different wavelengths
** Outcomes needed are:
*** A written plan to sustain long term effort in this area
*** This should describe how to seed, co-ordinate and publicise “ad-hoc” projects ,
*** Assess how frequently exercises can be undertaken
*** Define good ways to disseminate/share results.  This will including “advertising” projects and using them as input for other activities.
** We should aim to define a list of 2 or 3 projects for work  in the near term.  This should include a plan of action and participants for each.
** We should have a plan for presentation at SAS 2012. (This might just be an announcement of the  plan and see who wants to participate?.)
More details and suggestions are on the Discussion Page: [[ 2012 Standards Discussion ]]
More details and suggestions are on the Discussion Page: [[ 2012 Standards Discussion ]]
* '''Global SAS Web Portal'''
 
** define scope, purpose, and goal of portal
*'''Standards'''
** list content type to which such a portal should give access.
* Purpose and goals: Intercomparison of data measured on the same sample with different instruments and different techniques (SAXS, SANS, light scattering etc.) can prove valuable in a number of ways.  In particular it aids understanding of details of the experimental methods and it can help assess reliability.  In a similar way, looking at results of data reduction or analysis generated with different software can provide valuable information about performance and verification of methodology. Specifically these activities should:
** Suggest method for hosting
** Discuss what types of tests are interesting/important, intensity, resolution etc.
** Build a working straw landing page prototype
** Consider related issues: Inelastic, Multiple scattering, Wavelength contamination, Detector efficiencies at different wavelengths
** Build at least 2 or 3 subpages and/or designs on paper
* Outcomes needed are:
** plan for presentations
** A written plan to sustain long term effort in this area
*** SAS 2012  
** This should describe how to seed, co-ordinate and publicise “ad-hoc” projects ,
*** SAS commission
** Assess how frequently exercises can be undertaken
** Define good ways to disseminate/share results.  This will including “advertising” projects and using them as input for other activities.
* We should aim to define a list of 2 or 3 projects for work  in the near term.  This should include a plan of action and participants for each.
* We should have a plan for presentation at SAS 2012. (This might just be an announcement of the  plan and see who wants to participate?.)
 
== Global SAS Web Portal ==
 
More details and suggestions are on the Discussion Page: [[ 2012 Web Discussion ]]
More details and suggestions are on the Discussion Page: [[ 2012 Web Discussion ]]
* define scope, purpose, and goal of portal
* list content type to which such a portal should give access.
* Suggest method for hosting
* Build a working straw landing page prototype
* Build at least 2 or 3 subpages and/or designs on paper
* plan for presentations
** SAS 2012
** SAS commission


== Projects and Tasks ==
== Projects and Tasks ==
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# Standardization
# Standardization
# SAS web portal
# SAS web portal
# ...


== Presentations ==
== Presentations ==


# the canSAS 1D, lessons learned
These presentation were given on the first day:
# ...
* Pete Jemian (APS): [[media:2012-07-28-jemian-APS-overview.pdf | Status and challenges at the APS]]
 
* Andrew Jackson (ESS): [[media:ajj-5min.pdf | Thoughts on Data Formats and Web Portals]]
== What to bring ==
* Adrian Rennie (Uppsala University): [[media:Standardisation.pdf | Introduction to Standardisation (from the first webinar)]]
 
* Steve King & Sarah Rogers (ISIS): [[media:CanSAS2012_Kickoff-ISIS-v5.pdf | The view from ISIS]]
* example data
* ...


= Practical Matters =
= Practical Matters =
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*Please reserve your own rooms directly with the hotel (website, phone, ...)
*Please reserve your own rooms directly with the hotel (website, phone, ...)


Please reserve your own rooms directly with the hotel.  The quoted rate at the hotel should include breakfast.  This hotel is in the centre of Uppsala (see map) and is a few minutes walk from the railway station.
The quoted rate at the hotel should include breakfast.  This hotel is in the centre of Uppsala (see map) and is a few minutes walk from the railway station.


;Web site: http://www.clarionhotelgillet.com/
;Web site: http://www.clarionhotelgillet.com/
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The most convenient and fastest means to reach the hotel from the airport is usually to take the trains from Arlanda Central station (under SkyCity) to Uppsala.  Upptåget trains leave the airport at xx:27 and xx:57 thoughout the day and take 20 minutes.  The fare is 140 SEK (one way) and this can be paid with cash or by credit card at the ticket desk or using machines (red ticket machines - credit card only).  If you plan to take a long distance train operated by Swedish Railways (SJ) you should buy different tickets.  The hotel is a few minutes walk from the station in Uppsala.
The most convenient and fastest means to reach the hotel from the airport is usually to take the trains from Arlanda Central station (under SkyCity) to Uppsala.  Upptåget trains leave the airport at xx:27 and xx:57 thoughout the day and take 20 minutes.  The fare is 140 SEK (one way) and this can be paid with cash or by credit card at the ticket desk or using machines (red ticket machines - credit card only).  If you plan to take a long distance train operated by Swedish Railways (SJ) you should buy different tickets.  The hotel is a few minutes walk from the station in Uppsala.
You can also take the bus 801 from Arlanda Airport to Uppsala which departs every 30 minutes and takes about 40 minutes. The buses leave from stop number 13 (there is a stop with this number outside each terminal).  Tickets can be bought at the airport or with a Swedish mobile phone or a Visa/Master Card on the bus.  Cash is not accepted on the bus.


If you plan to take a taxi you can prebook a taxi and there is a fixed rate from the airport to Uppsala.  You should make certain that you use one of the Uppsala taxi companies if you simply go to the rank at the airport.
If you plan to take a taxi you can prebook a taxi and there is a fixed rate from the airport to Uppsala.  You should make certain that you use one of the Uppsala taxi companies if you simply go to the rank at the airport.
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* Conference fee: no fee  
* Conference fee: no fee  
* regular meals (breakfast, lunch, dinner) will be traveler's expense
* regular meals (breakfast, lunch, dinner) will be traveller's expense


=== Equipment ===
=== Equipment ===
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| align="center" | host
| align="center" | host
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| LCD displays, keyboards, & mice  
| LCD displays, keyboards, & mice  
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| align="center" | a few if needed
| align="center" | host
| align="center" | host
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| electrical power extension cords
| electrical power extension cords
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| align="center" | plenty
| align="center" | host
| align="center" | host
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| foreign electrical power adapter
| foreign electrical power adapter
| align="center" | as needed
| align="center" | as needed
| align="center" | traveler
| align="center" | traveller
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| Wi-Fi connections
| Wi-Fi connections
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| align="center" | host venue
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= Participants =
= Participants =
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| Lionel Porcar
| Lionel Porcar
| align="center" | [http://www.ill.eu/ Institut Laue Langevin]
| align="center" | [http://www.ill.eu/ Institut Laue Langevin]
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| Masaaki Sugiyama
| align="center" | [http://www.rri.kyoto-u.ac.jp/en/index.html Kyoto University]
| align="center" | [http://www.rri.kyoto-u.ac.jp/en/index.html Kyoto University]
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| Duncan McGillivray
| Duncan McGillivray
| align="center" | [http://web.chemistry.auckland.ac.nz/staff-profile-jahia.aspx?staffid=207 University of Aukland]
| align="center" | [http://web.chemistry.auckland.ac.nz/staff-profile-jahia.aspx?staffid=207 University of Auckland]
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= Final Report =
 
-tba-
 


[[Category: canSAS 2012]]
[[Category: canSAS 2012]]

Latest revision as of 00:56, 10 November 2012

2012 Meeting of canSAS working groups

    The FINAL REPORT is now available.


cansas-2012-group-photo.jpg


Purpose

Work on specific matters important to the canSAS (collective action for nomadic Small-Angle Scatterers) community as decided in previous conference calls. It is expected that those attending this working session will already have strong foundation and understanding and will come ready with knowledge, tools, and ideas to make significant progress during the event. The specific projects and tasks, as well as the list of participants, are described on this wiki and will be revised as the event draws near.

The three main themes are:


This page provides discussion of the themes, preliminary work and ideas : 2012 Discussion

Outcomes

  • 2-d data format
  • A plan for standards
  • Global SAS Web Portal
  • presentation at SAS2012

Time and Place

Dates

  • 2012 July 28 - 31 (Saturday - Tuesday, inclusive)

Meeting Location

Uppsala University
Building: Angstrom Laboratory [1]
Room(s): Faculty Room, Angstrom Lab. (2nd floor above main entrance). Additional break-out sessions in Rooms 61416 and 62416.

We will hold some web based sessions (Webinars) during the meeting so that people in the broader canSAS community that are unable to attend in person can participate in some of the discussions during the meeting.

Schedule

  • arrive the previous day (Friday, 2012-07-27)
  • conference check-in first morning (Saturday, 2012-07-28), location Angstrom Laboratory
  • meet all day (Sunday, 2012-07-29), location Angstrom Laboratory
  • meet all day (Monday, 2012-07-30), location Angstrom Laboratory
  • meet all day (Tuesday, 2012-07-31), location Angstrom Laboratory
  • checkout next day (Wednesday, 2012-08-01)

Daily Agenda

Meeting room is the Faculty Room (House 1, Floor 2 - directly above main entrance). We will also use rooms 61416 and 62416 for breakout sessions.

Here is a suggested schedule (tentative):


Saturday, 28 July 2012

Uppsala time description comments UK BST US CDT AUS EST Japan JST
09:00 - 09:15 AM plenary Welcome and Introductions        
09:15 - 10:30 AM plenary 5 minute presentation by each participant of ideas and challenges ( see below)        
10:30 - 10:45 AM plenary tea, coffee        
10:45 - 11:10 PM plenary Report presentations

NIAC status and plans for SAS data formats
Current plans and efforts of IUCr CSAS on standards
Current plans and efforts of IUCr CSAS on SAS web efforts

       
11:10 - 12:30 PM plenary Plenary discussion on standardisation, data formats, web portal        
12:30 - 2:00 PM lunch Sandwiches in Coffee area - House 6, Floor 1.        
2:00 - 3:00 PM plenary Webinar

focused discussions of 20 min on each topic:
standardisation, data formats, and web portal

1:00-2:00 PM 7:00-8:00 AM 10:00-11:00 PM 9:00-10:00 PM
3:00 - 4:30 PM afternoon session work in groups - standardisation, data formats, web portal        
4:30 - 4:45 PM plenary tea, coffee        
4:45 - 6:30 PM afternoon session work in groups - standardisation, data formats, web portal        
8:00 - 9:30 PM dinner Restuarant Åkanten        
9:30 PM - ? evening discussions ad hoc        

Sunday 29 July 2012

Uppsala time description comments
08:45 - 09:45 AM plenary Reports, questions, and discussion

and plan day's work

09:45 - 10:00 AM plenary tea, coffee
10:00 - 12:00 noon morning session work in groups
12:00 - 1:30 PM lunch Sandwiches in Coffee area - House 6, Floor 1.
1:30 - 4:30 PM afternoon session work in groups
4:30 - 4:45 PM plenary tea, coffee
4:45 - 6:00 PM plenary reports and discussions
7:30 - 10:00 PM dinner Restaurant Lingon
10:00 PM - ? evening discussions ad hoc

The intensity of deliberations takes its toll on Andrew & Lionel...

takingitstoll.jpg

Monday 30 July 2012

Uppsala time description comments UK BST US CDT AUS EST Japan JST
08:45 - 09:30 AM plenary Webinar 7:45-8:30 AM 1:45-2:30 AM 4:45-5:30 PM 3:45-4:30 PM
09:30 - 09:45 AM plenary tea, coffee        
09:45 - 12:00 noon morning session work in groups        
12:00 - 1:30 PM lunch Sandwiches in Coffee area - House 6, Floor 1.        
1:30 - 4:30 PM afternoon session work in groups        
4:30 - 4:45 PM plenary tea, coffee        
4:45 - 6:30 PM plenary reports and discussions - plan dissemination        
7:30 - 9:00 PM dinner Restaurant Alexander        
9:00 PM - ? evening discussions ad hoc        

Tuesday 31 July 2012

Uppsala time description comments UK BST US CDT AUS EST Japan JST
08:45 - 09:30 AM plenary Plan reports/outcomes*        
09:30 - 09:45 AM plenary tea, coffee        
09:45 - 12:00 noon morning session groups work on reports/outcomes*        
12:00 - 1:30 PM lunch Sandwiches in Coffee area - House 6, Floor 1.        
1:30 - 3:45 PM afternoon session groups work on reports/outcomes*        
3:45 - 4:00 PM plenary tea, coffee        
4:00 - 6:00 PM plenary Webinar

Presentation of prelim reports and concluding discussions

3:00-5:00 PM 9:00-11:00 AM 12:00 midnight-2:00 AM (Wed. 1 Aug.) 11:00 PM-1:00 AM
6:30 - 8:30 PM evening discussions          
8:30 - 10:00 PM Dinner and discussion Plock        

* Besides reports other outcomes could include schemas, api definitions, live web pages, etc.

Webinar Schedule and Themes

This list has been extracted from the above program.

Please use the specific links below for each date to join the webinars at the stated time. If you send your e-mail contact details to Adrian.Rennie@fysik.uu.se we can try to keep you informed of any late technical changes. If you have never attended an Adobe Connect meeting before the following tests and information may be helpful:

(a) Test your connection: https://connect.sunet.se/common/help/en/support/meeting_test.htm

(b) Get a quick overview: http://www.adobe.com/go/connectpro_overview

Reminder: it is a good idea to check your sound before the meeting. Use of a headset is strongly recommended to avoid background noise and feedback. You will be able to access the webinar as a 'guest'. Please give your name so that you are identified to other participants. Participants can contribute presentations and display material from their computers. When you connect to the meeting as a guest, you will need to wait for a host to accept your participation. It will be most efficient if everyone connects a little before the advertised start time!

You do not need specific software or licenses to participate in these meetings. You will be prompted to install Adobe Flash (free) if you wish to participate.

We can arrange other ad-hoc electronic meetings if necessary. Please contact participants or the host (Adrian Rennie) to make arrangements.

How to get to specific webinars

Saturday, 28 July 2012

Focused discussions of 20 min on each topic: standardisation, data formats, and web portal

To join the meeting go to the following link in a browser: https://connect.sunet.se/cansas2012_i/

  • Uppsala: 2:00 - 3:00 PM
  • UK BST: 1:00 - 2:00 PM
  • US CDT: 7:00 - 8:00 AM
  • AUS EST: 10:00 - 11:00 PM
  • Japan JST: 9:00 - 10:00 PM
Sunday, 29 July 2012

no webinar

Monday, 30 July 2012

This will provide updates on work at the meeting.

To join the meeting go to the following link in a browser: https://connect.sunet.se/cansas_ii/

  • Uppsala: 8:45 - 9:30 AM
  • UK BST: 7:45 - 8:30 AM
  • US CDT: 1:45 - 2:30 AM
  • AUS EST: 4:45 - 5:30 PM
  • Japan JST: 3:45 - 4:30 PM
Tuesday, 31 July 2012

Presentation of preliminary reports and concluding discussions

To join the meeting go to the following link in a browser: https://connect.sunet.se/cansas_iii/

  • Uppsala: 4:00 - 6:00 PM
  • UK BST: 3:00 - 5:00 PM
  • US CDT: 9:00 - 11:00 AM
  • AUS EST: 12:00 Midnight (Wednesday 1 August)- 2:00 AM (Wednesday 1 August)
  • Japan JST: 11:00 PM (Tuesday 31 July) - 1:00 AM (Wednesday 1 August)

Business Matters

Standard Reduced Data Format

More details and suggestions are on the Discussion Page: 2012 Data Discussion .

  • Re-enunciate purpose and benefits of a standard reduced data format
  • 1D Format
    • agree a proposed extension of the current 1D standard
  • 2D Format
    • define minimum information necessary for reduced data
    • suggest format framework (NeXus extension, canSAS 1D extension, other) with brief discussion of the reason for the choice (including options considered, pros and cons of each, and final weighing)
    • Guide to how to make implementation easy.
    • Create straw format suitable for test/demonstration use and convert some test data for such a demonstration.
    • Provide a plan for presentation at SAS 2012

Standards and Calibrations

More details and suggestions are on the Discussion Page: 2012 Standards Discussion

  • Standards
  • Purpose and goals: Intercomparison of data measured on the same sample with different instruments and different techniques (SAXS, SANS, light scattering etc.) can prove valuable in a number of ways. In particular it aids understanding of details of the experimental methods and it can help assess reliability. In a similar way, looking at results of data reduction or analysis generated with different software can provide valuable information about performance and verification of methodology. Specifically these activities should:
    • Discuss what types of tests are interesting/important, intensity, resolution etc.
    • Consider related issues: Inelastic, Multiple scattering, Wavelength contamination, Detector efficiencies at different wavelengths
  • Outcomes needed are:
    • A written plan to sustain long term effort in this area
    • This should describe how to seed, co-ordinate and publicise “ad-hoc” projects ,
    • Assess how frequently exercises can be undertaken
    • Define good ways to disseminate/share results. This will including “advertising” projects and using them as input for other activities.
  • We should aim to define a list of 2 or 3 projects for work in the near term. This should include a plan of action and participants for each.
  • We should have a plan for presentation at SAS 2012. (This might just be an announcement of the plan and see who wants to participate?.)

Global SAS Web Portal

More details and suggestions are on the Discussion Page: 2012 Web Discussion

  • define scope, purpose, and goal of portal
  • list content type to which such a portal should give access.
  • Suggest method for hosting
  • Build a working straw landing page prototype
  • Build at least 2 or 3 subpages and/or designs on paper
  • plan for presentations
    • SAS 2012
    • SAS commission

Projects and Tasks

These items are sorted in order of priority that they be finished.

  1. 2-D format
  2. Standardization
  3. SAS web portal

Presentations

These presentation were given on the first day:

Practical Matters

Registration

Please inform Adrian Rennie of your intention to particpate and send details of your arrival and departure dates. You should book the accommodation directly with the hotel - see below.

Hotel

Clarion Hotel Gillet, Uppsala
Dragarbrunnsgatan 23,
753 20 Uppsala, Sweden

  • Expect hotel rate to be 570 SEK for 1 Single Bed (approximate, subject to change)
  • Please reserve your own rooms directly with the hotel (website, phone, ...)

The quoted rate at the hotel should include breakfast. This hotel is in the centre of Uppsala (see map) and is a few minutes walk from the railway station.

Web site
http://www.clarionhotelgillet.com/
telephone
+46 (0) 18 68 18 00
fax
+46 (0) 18 68 18 18
e-mail
cl.uppsala@choice.se
map reference

Directions and Maps

The most convenient and fastest means to reach the hotel from the airport is usually to take the trains from Arlanda Central station (under SkyCity) to Uppsala. Upptåget trains leave the airport at xx:27 and xx:57 thoughout the day and take 20 minutes. The fare is 140 SEK (one way) and this can be paid with cash or by credit card at the ticket desk or using machines (red ticket machines - credit card only). If you plan to take a long distance train operated by Swedish Railways (SJ) you should buy different tickets. The hotel is a few minutes walk from the station in Uppsala.

You can also take the bus 801 from Arlanda Airport to Uppsala which departs every 30 minutes and takes about 40 minutes. The buses leave from stop number 13 (there is a stop with this number outside each terminal). Tickets can be bought at the airport or with a Swedish mobile phone or a Visa/Master Card on the bus. Cash is not accepted on the bus.

If you plan to take a taxi you can prebook a taxi and there is a fixed rate from the airport to Uppsala. You should make certain that you use one of the Uppsala taxi companies if you simply go to the rank at the airport.

Other Details

Host

  • Adrian Rennie
    • institute: Uppsala University
    • email: Adrian.Rennie@fysik.uu.se
    • office phone: +46184713596

Costs

  • Conference fee: no fee
  • regular meals (breakfast, lunch, dinner) will be traveller's expense

Equipment

item quantity who provides?
projector & screen 1 for each meeting room host
LCD displays, keyboards, & mice a few if needed host
electrical power extension cords plenty host
foreign electrical power adapter as needed traveller
Wi-Fi connections sufficient host venue

Participants

participant affiliation arriving departing registration? other
Adrian Rennie Uppsala University host host host  
Paul Butler NIST 2012-07-27 2012-08-02 Yes  
Andrew Jackson ESS 2012-07-27 2012-08-01 Yes  
Pete Jemian APS 2012-07-27 2012-08-01 Yes  
Steve King ISIS 2012-07-27 2012-08-01 Yes  
Tobias Richter Diamond Light Source 2012-07-27 2012-08-01 Yes  
Lionel Porcar Institut Laue Langevin 2012-07-27 2012-08-01 Yes  
Masaaki Sugiyama Kyoto University 2012-07-27 2012-07-30 Yes  
Ron Ghosh University College London 2012-07-27 2012-08-01 Yes  
Yuya Shinohara University of Tokyo 2012-07-27 2012-08-01 Yes  
Sarah Rogers ISIS 2012-07-27 2012-07-29 Yes  
Maja Hellsing Uppsala University host host Yes  
Duncan McGillivray University of Auckland 2012-07-27 2012-08-01 Yes